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  • TrueMacedonian
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3810

    #76
    Soros' agenda in Macedonia



    Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia
    Visit the Site: http://www.soros.org.mk

    The Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia works to foster a society that is more tolerant, democratic, integrated with Europe, and composed of informed and educated citizens. Among its major priorities are increasing civic participation in politics, supporting the rights of Roma and other vulnerable populations, and promoting regional cooperation on issues ranging from human rights to social science education.

    To improve education for Roma youth, the foundation administers the Roma Education Program, an initiative developed by OSI and funded by USAID that has helped bring about substantial increases in high school graduation rates and college enrollment among Macedonian Roma. In a broader effort to promote tolerance and social inclusion of all minorities, the foundation has led a public education campaign financed by the European Commission that celebrates Macedonia’s multicultural heritage.

    The foundation has also focused on promoting the rights of people with mental disabilities. In collaboration with OSI’s Mental Health Initiative, it has worked with the Ministry of Labor and Social Policy to initiate a human rights–based approach to mental health care that aims to phase out institutionalization and help integrate people with mental disabilities into society.

    The foundation is also engaged in multicountry research and education initiatives, such as an assessment of human rights in Croatia and Macedonia relative to EU norms, and a project to create four new history textbooks that were developed by 60 historians from 11 countries and which use an inclusive, multiethnic approach to pedagogy.



    Foundation Open Society Institute–Macedonia
    Bul. Jane Sandanski 111, P.O.B. 378
    Skopje 1000
    Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of
    (389 2) 2 44 44 88
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    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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    • TrueMacedonian
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3810

      #77





      Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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      • TrueMacedonian
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 3810

        #78


        January 06, 2004, 8:53 a.m.

        Diplomatic Missteps
        The State Department works for the American Left in Macedonia.


        By Kerri Houston

        It is a beautiful country to be sure, but the small Balkan nation of Macedonia has some big problems.

        As it works to satisfy cumbersome requirements for integrating into NATO and the EU, Macedonia continues to experience high unemployment and a staggering trade deficit. It has fallen victim to the eastern European criminal network active in trafficking women and children into prostitution. Both its majority and minority political parties are trying to balance national unity with ethnic recognition. It is a ticking time bomb for ethnic violence that could erupt at any moment.

        The country isn't even allowed to use its rightful name: The Greeks, still apparently reeling from the invasion of Alexander the Great, objected to the name Macedonia during the post-Communism renaming process of the 1990's. So out of the wreckage of Yugoslavia came its ludicrous official name, FYROM — the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

        Against this backdrop of critical economic and identity development as well as ethnic unrest, the vast majority of Macedonians think that homosexuality is a disease. Therefore, the U.S. embassy in Macedonia is using U.S. taxpayer dollars to erect billboards promoting the homosexual agenda.

        Not just billboards, but graphic billboards. The large photo array includes three pictures of gay men holding each other; three pictures of women in suggestive positions (one even using elderly women); and lastly, a ménage à trios with an Asian woman, a blond woman (neither looking even remotely Macedonian), and a man who looks very much like Jesus of Nazareth.

        The billboards reads: "Face Reality, The Campaign to Promote the Rights of Sexual Minorities," and in the lower right-hand corner is the seal of the American embassy, Skopje.

        The billboard is prominently displayed in the capital of Skopje, and also in the peaceful, ancient city of Ohrid. It is unclear how many of these billboards dot the Macedonian landscape.

        I saw these myself while there recently to speak to Macedonian and ethnically Albanian women about increasing their roles in the political process. It was promising to see these disparate women discuss politics, ethnic violence, and the universal female kinship of child rearing as they put aside centuries-old differences on behalf of their country. In comparison to America's hollow heroes of celebrity, it was an honor to be among these legitimately brave and forward-thinking women.

        According to these political activists, supporting coalition building, opening dialogue between factional political parties, and expanding manufacturing and commerce for this emerging democracy should be the primary mission of U.S. interests — both political and economic. There are numerous NGOs and U.S. government agencies currently operating in Macedonia, and the private-sector presence is growing.

        Much of this activity centers around the U.S. embassy in Skopje, headed by Ambassador Lawrence Butler. Ambassador Butler served on the National Security Council staff as director for European affairs for President Clinton, and was made a member of the Senior Foreign Service in 1997 by the Clinton administration. He has been in foreign service since 1976 and has vast European experience, particularly in the Balkans.

        Since arriving in Macedonia in April of 2002, Ambassador Butler has created discomfort and resentment by dismissing the use of a Macedonian translator when speaking in predominantly Albanian areas, and supported a USAID memo that advocated the use of the flag of the Republic of Albania at U.S.-sponsored events in Macedonia.

        It is mystifying why an experienced diplomat with in-depth knowledge of Balkan ethnic unrest and cultural mores would eschew caution and sensitivity when dealing with inter-ethnic protocol. That our embassy would not just support, but sponsor, billboards that offend the entire national spectrum is particularly egregious and ill-advised.

        In 2002, the Swedish Helsinki Committee and the Foundation Open Society of Macedonia did a comprehensive survey of the attitudes toward homosexuality of the four largest ethnic Macedonian communities — Macedonian, Albanian, Turkish, and Roma. The committee's conclusion is glaring: 64 percent of Macedonians think homosexuality is a disease, only 19 percent don't, and the rest are "not certain."

        Another 60 percent believe it is also "immoral." As recently as 1996, homosexuality was a criminal offense, and nearly 35 percent of Macedonians believe that it should continue to be punishable by law. On the personal scale, only 20.5 percent of Macedonians surveyed would accept the homosexuality of a family member.

        Yet into this worldview marches the U.S. embassy, allocating vital financial resources to an in-your-face strategy promoting the inevitability and acceptance of this perceived "disease." It seems that in Macedonia at least, support for the homosexual agenda has become the official position of the U.S. State Department.

        The arrival of these billboards has been noticed by Macedonian president Boris Trajkovski, who was "appalled to see that the embassy of the United States of America would sponsor something such as this in Macedonia."

        He told me, "U.S. taxpayer funds should not be used to promote alternative lifestyles in my country, and I do not believe that most Americans would appreciate this. We have many more pressing issues that the money could be used for. This is deeply offensive to most people in Macedonia which represents a very conservative mix of the Orthodox Christian and Muslim faiths."

        Macedonia has been overrun by all manner of foreign invaders for thousands of years — Romans, Turks, Greeks, Nazis, and even billionaire leftist George Soros, who departed in a huff with his investment capital when his efforts to kingdomize the country failed. As Macedonia moves from the economic legacy of Communism to a free-market system, maintaining its stability is a key element in U.S. and international efforts to reduce political volatility in the Balkans, including neighboring Kosovo. The incursion of the homosexual agenda of the American Left — implemented by our diplomatic corps — is yet another incursion not welcomed by the Macedonian people.

        The Macedonian women have it right — America's greatest gift to their nation should be the export of economic and individual liberty, wrapped in respect for the country's historic and deeply held cultural and religious beliefs.

        — Kerri Houston is vice president of policy for Frontiers of Freedom.
        Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #79
          definetly onto something there tm.One thing's clear the greek side will stop at nothing & there is more at stake than people think.Greece has nothing to lose or give but macedonia has quite a lot to lose.
          Last edited by George S.; 11-13-2010, 01:47 AM. Reason: ed
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • George S.
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 10116

            #80
            Sorros has tried to give the impression that he is helping when it's the opposite.You have busted another myth tm & have cut through the BS.
            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
            GOTSE DELCEV

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            • Phoenix
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4671

              #81
              Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
              http://www.soros.org.mk/default.asp?lang=eng&menuid=10

              Addressing the identity issue, Papadopoulou said that the reason for the name change is to make a distinction between the two Macedonias; the one that is a province in Greece and the one that is an independent country. "Identity is a complex issue. The name change would only help make a clear distinction between the Greek Macedonia and your country. In my country there are about 2.5 million residents feeling as Macedonians."
              Is there any evidence of the 'greeks' feeling this way...if this is to be taken seriously, surely we would have many examples throughout the ages of the 'greeks' in Aegean Macedonia openly expressing their "Macedonian" consciousness, surely the evidence would exist in every level of society, from the naming of schools, government offices, media outlets, social associations, infrastructure and anything else that they could put a "Macedonia" sign on.

              On the contrary, the 'evidence' extends to a couple of hastily renamed objects in the 1980's when this drama first began to unfold...and all of a sudden its a huge problem for them...

              The 'greek' strategy has always been built around confusing the outsiders who show any interest in this madness...once the 'greeks' lost ground on the name of the State they changed tact to include identity and language, this propels the entire debate into the too hard basket and ensures that Macedonia remains squarely on the periphery of the EU and NATO, where the 'greeks' can continue to belittle and bully the Macedonians from a position of power.

              Its sad that Macedonians feel that something positive could be gained by debating with 'greek' donkeys...we are clearly the most idiotic people on the planet.

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              • Prolet
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 5241

                #82
                Its sad that Macedonians feel that something positive could be gained by debating with 'greek' donkeys...we are clearly the most idiotic people on the planet.
                Phoenix, The Soros foundation is purposely there to destabilize our country, they form all sorts of NGO's to give our citizens so called advise on how we should be running our country in a spineless manner.
                МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                • Prolet
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5241

                  #83
                  Soros, a simple man who Set out to Rule the World...

                  Saturday, 13 November 2010

                  There has been an increased scrutiny over Billionaire George Soros' (born Schwartz Gyorgy) work in the Balkans.

                  Soros has been repeatedly in the news not just when there are elections in Europe, but just a week ago, during the American general elections. In the US, the first notable thing tied to Soros is the funding for the Secretary of State Project - which is basically an attempt to elect Secretaries of State around the country willing to impose Soros-friendly election laws in an attempt to tilt the playing field in Dems favor on election day.

                  Croatian portal 'Business' in an article yesterday, analyzed the Croatian elections back in the year of 2000, when HDZ lost its only general elections ever as a result of Soros' meddlings.

                  Last night, a FOX show hosted by Glenn Beck mentioned Soros as the main culprit behind the downfall of the Czech, Ukraining and Georgian Governments. In each case, a shadowy political party controlled by Soros was formed, and in each case after the fall of the Government, his party took power.

                  Soros' dealings are very well known in Macedonia as well. The Open Society Institute headed by Vladimir Milcin is 100% owned and funded by Soros. More than a dozen Macedonian NGO's are also funded by the Hungarian American. The most famous one is "Citizens for European Macedonia" who just like the Open Society Institute, publicly advocates change of constitutional name and constantly attacks any Government in power that doesn't have Soros' cronies in it (the SDSM).

                  The latest NGO funded by Soros is "Macedonian Center for European Education" headed by Radmila Shekerinska's sister Ljiljana Shekerinska.

                  Soros, a simple man with a simple goal: world without borders, ruled by Soros. //JW

                  МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                  • Phoenix
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4671

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Prolet View Post
                    Phoenix, The Soros foundation is purposely there to destabilize our country, they form all sorts of NGO's to give our citizens so called advise on how we should be running our country in a spineless manner.
                    Prolet, who's behind Soros...?

                    Surely at 80 years of age he's running out of time to rule the World...

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                    • Makedonska_Kafana
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2642

                      #85
                      What we need to find out is who his closest Macedonian friends are and then follow the trail. Did Gligorov receive money from the foundation? Crvenkovski?
                      http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                      Macedonia for the Macedonians

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                      • Prolet
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5241

                        #86
                        Phoenix, He is (i think) the 35th richest man in the world, he makes his money by meddling into other countries exactly what he does in Macedonia he is all over the Balkans and the rest of the world. He is a Hungarian Jew who claims to be an atheist, thats a good question he must have somebody standing behind him whos allowing him to do this. He is active in USA too, he is with the Democrats.
                        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                        • Bratot
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2855

                          #87
                          Mhmmm smellyyy

                          TM this is good one, very very much!
                          The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                          • Bratot
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2855

                            #88
                            Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                            http://www.soros.org.mk/default.asp?lang=eng&menuid=10

                            The country’s name is the problem, not the identity which is an individual issue

                            The discussion on the topic of "Greek-Macedonian relations in light of the European integration process” was moderated by Branko Geroski, with Greek ambassador Alessandra Papadopoulou being his guest.



                            Those who doubts that the name change is not a change of identity should be reminded of Aristotles, more precisely about the first Law of Identity:

                            In logic, the law of identity states that an object is the same as itself: A ≡ A.

                            Any reflexive relation upholds the law of identity. When discussing equality, the fact that "A is A" is a tautology.

                            That everything is necessarily the same with itself and different from another” is the self-evident first principle of linguistics, for it governs the designation or 'identification' of individual concepts within any symbolic language, so as to avoid ambiguity in the communicating of concepts between the users of that language. Such a principle is necessary because a ‘symbolic designator’ (name, word, sign, etc.) has no inherent meaning of its own, but derives its meaning from a cognizant agent who correlates the given designator with a conventionally prescribed concept that has been previously learned and stored in their memory.

                            African Spir proclaims the principle of identity (or law of identity A ≡ A) as the fundamental law of knowledge, which is opposed to the changing appearance of the empirical.




                            Everything which is not logical sinks.
                            Our failure to comply with Aristotle, we shall perish.

                            The A must be " = " to A

                            therefore we can NOT be Vardar Macedonia or any other name instead of Macedonia!

                            (VM =/= M)

                            That's why we can NOT allow any compromise on the name since the compromise itself is illogical.

                            The purpose of this thread would be providing reliable opinions and analyses of the main issue concerning Macedonia and Macedonians. I would like to start with datailed analyse about buiding the destructive public opinion in Macedonia and for what purpose. It's not difficult to notice the relationship of mutual benefit or




                            Addressing the identity issue, Papadopoulou said that the reason for the name change is to make a distinction between the two Macedonias; the one that is a province in Greece and the one that is an independent country.


                            The Greek "province" of Macedonia - fact or fiction? .




                            "Identity is a complex issue. The name change would only help make a clear distinction between the Greek Macedonia and your country. In my country there are about 2.5 million residents feeling as Macedonians."



                            The Making of Greece (part 2) - the forced hellenization- .

                            Last edited by Bratot; 11-13-2010, 05:00 AM.
                            The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                            • Prolet
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5241

                              #89
                              Here is more info on Soros

                              МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                              • Makedonska_Kafana
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 2642

                                #90
                                What does the Macedonian world of Soros look like compared to that of the UMD the past 5 years? After Crvenkovski came out and said he supports a name change UMD still opened their arms and met twice with the dusman.

                                What did Crvenkovski tell UMD those two times?

                                http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                                Macedonia for the Macedonians

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