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  • Pelister
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2742

    #61
    Mark Mazower is right in that there is usually this teleology that Macedonia was always Greek, or that people were always somehow Greeks. If we consider that they were Hellenized, then we must allow for the fact they became Greeks, and he is right to point out that the process of Hellenization is never fully accounted for.

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    • TrueMacedonian
      Banned
      • Jan 2009
      • 3823

      #62







      Salonica: City of Ghosts, by Mark Mazower

      4000 years of "greek" history,,, yet the last sentence (as well as many parts of these pages) state that this city was never actually "greek" to begin with. Oh imposter hellenes just deal with the reality that many of your "greek macedonians" looked like this in the 1920's

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      • TrueMacedonian
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 3823

        #63
        page 336





        Salonica: City of Ghosts by Mark Mazower

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15660

          #64
          Compelling stuff TM.
          Is there any doubt about the "plasticity" of the modern Greek identity?
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • TrueMacedonian
            Banned
            • Jan 2009
            • 3823

            #65
            Thanks RTG this material is compelling and breaks alot of modern "greek" myths into pieces.

            But who was this Constantine Raktivan??? Raktivan... a Christian Turk maybe?

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            • Daskalot
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 4345

              #66
              Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
              Thanks RTG this material is compelling and breaks alot of modern "greek" myths into pieces.

              But who was this Constantine Raktivan??? Raktivan... a Christian Turk maybe?
              That lastname sounds Armenian to me......
              Macedonian Truth Organisation

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              • TrueMacedonian
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 3823

                #67
                Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                That lastname sounds Armenian to me......
                Could be. Hope someone can help us out with this.

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Banned
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3823

                  #68

                  page 7

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                  • TrueMacedonian
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3823

                    #69
                    Here's an honest admission from one of their own concerning the Baptized Turks;


                    page 73

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                    • Pelister
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2742

                      #70
                      "Two or three generations passed before they stopped calling themselves 'refugees'" - See T.Ms post above (pp.337, City of Ghosts... by Mark Mazower)
                      Fascinating stuff.

                      What the "changed street names" (pp.283 last paragraph - see T.M's post above ) testify to is a project to change/alter the natural cultural and ethnic landscape beyond recognition.

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                      • osiris
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1969

                        #71
                        now the same lost fools are calling themselves macedonians. tm great work but does any mainstream us or eu politian give a fuck for the truth or for human rights, i personally havent seen any one of those smug hypocrites adhere to truth or justice.

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                        • TrueMacedonian
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3823

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Bratot View Post
                          “Ethnic groups and population changes in twentieth-century Central-Eastern Europe: history, data, analysis“
                          Piotr Eberhardt

                          Published by M.E. Sharpe, 2003
                          ISBN 0765606658, 9780765606655









                          As you could see above, the Albanians themselfs admit that 100.000 KOSOVARS were settled down in Macedonia before 1991, but according to them they were not allowed to get the macedonian citizenship.

                          Bratot please re-post this info again.

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                          • TrueMacedonian
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3823

                            #73

                            page 186


                            Fugees, Ponti's, Arvanites, what else lurks in modern "greece".

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                            • Daskalot
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4345

                              #74
                              Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                              Bratot please re-post this info again.
                              Please do Bratot! Do you have backups of the pictures?
                              Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                              • Bratot
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 2855

                                #75
                                “Ethnic groups and population changes in twentieth-century Central-Eastern Europe: history, data, analysis“
                                Piotr Eberhardt

                                Published by M.E. Sharpe, 2003
                                ISBN 0765606658, 9780765606655











                                As you could see above, the Albanians themselfs admit that 100.000 KOSOVARS were settled down in Macedonia before 1991, but according to them they were not allowed to get the macedonian citizenship.

                                Last edited by Bratot; 01-30-2010, 08:51 AM.
                                The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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