Greece, History, Truth

[George S.]

The people in fact are from turkey & were called Prosfiges.THey have no direct link with the land except during the poulation exchanges they were settled in Macedonia.After 80 years they call themselves Macednian!Turkish Greek immigrants would be more like it.

[chicagoan]

Bill,

that list is extremely flawed. I could tear that apart in so many ways. But i really cant be bothered with that right now.

[chicagoan]

The people in fact are from turkey & were called Prosfiges.THey have no direct link with the land except during the poulation exchanges they were settled in Macedonia.After 80 years they call themselves Macednian!Turkish Greek immigrants would be more like it.

Yes, many were prosfigs... I cant argue with that. That doesnt mean that there were Zero greeks macedonia. That just isnt the case.

Macedonia happened to be a crossroad of many ethnicites at the time. So I fail to see your point. We might as well have the jews join in this conversation as well...

[Bill77]

Bill,

that list is extremely flawed. I could tear that apart in so many ways. But i really cant be bothered with that right now.

which list? This?

Baba - Father - Babas
Baca - Chimney - Batzias
Bacak - Leg, leg of trousers in G.- Batzaki
Bacanak - Brother in law - Batjanakis
Baglama - A string instrument - Baglamas
Bahce - Garden - Bahtses
Bahsis - Tip - Baxisi
Bakir - Copper - Bakiri
Bakkal - Grocer - Bakkalis
Baklava - Baklava - Baklavas
Balta - Ax - Baltas
Bamya - Okra - Bamia
Barbunya - A fish - Barbunia
Barut - Gunpowder - Baruti
Battaniye - Woolen Blanket - Batania
Batakci - Swindler - Bataxis
Bayrak - Flag - Bairaki
Bekar - Batchelor - Bekiaris
Bekri - Drunk - Bekris
Bela - Trouble - Belas
Benzin - Petrol, gas - Benzina
Bereket - Abundance, plenty - Bereket
Beton - Concrete - Beton
Bey - Mr. - Beis
Bezelye - Pea - Bizeli
Biber - Pepper - Piperi
Biftek - Steak - Bifteki
Bodrum - Cellar, dungeon - Boudroumi
Bomba - Bomb - Bomba
Bostan - Vegetable field, garden - Bostani
Bora - Storm - Bora
Boya - Paint - Bogia
Borek - Pastry, pie - Boureki
Bre - Hi, you - Vre
Budala - Idiot - Boudalas
Bulgur - Boiled wheat - Bligouri
But - Thigh - Bouti
Buz - Ice, very cold - Bouzi
Buzuki - Bouzouki - Bouzouki


ok Try this,

Cacik - A drink with cucumbers- Tzatziki
Caka - Swagger, vanity - Tsaka
Cam - Window pane - Tzami
Cami - Mosque - Tzami
Cambaz - Acrobat, dealer in G.- Tzambazis
Cenabet - Crabbed person - Tzanabetis
Cep - Pocket - Tsepi
Cereme - Fine or cost of damage- Tzeremes
Cezve - Coffee Pot - Tzesves
Ciger - Liver, lungs - Tziyeri
Cimbiz - Tweezers - Tsimpida
Cuce - Dwarf - Tsutzes
Cadir - Tent - Tsiantiri
Cakirkeyif - Slightly drunk - Tsakir-kefi
Cali - Thorny plant - Tsiali
Calim - Flexibility, show off - Tsalimi
Cam - Pine tree - Tsami
Canak - Shallow bowl - Tsanaki
Canta - Handbag - Tsanta
Capacul - Untidy - Tsapatulis
Capari - Weight anchor - Tsapari
Capkin - Seducer, coquettish - Tsahpinis
Capraz - Crossed - Tsaprazi
Cardak - Hut of dried branches - Tsardaki
Carsi - Market - Charsi
Carik - Rustic shoe - Tsarouhi
Catal - Fork - Tsatala
Catra Patra - Stumbling speech - Tsatra patra
Cavus- Sergeant - Tsausis
Cay - Tea - Tsai
Celebi - Pleasant man, mentor - Tselebis
Cember - Circle - Tsemperi
Cengel - Hook - Tsingeli
Ciklet - Chewing gum - Tsikla
Ciftetelli- A dance - siftetelli
Ciftlik - Large country estate - Tsifliki
Cifit - Tight in money - Tsifoutis
Cimento - Cement - Tsimento
Cinko - Zinc - Tsingos
Ciftlik - Big farm, property - Tsifliki
Cirak - Apprentice - Tsiraki
Cipura- A fish - Tsipura
Ciroz - A fish - Tsiros
Coban - Shepherd - Tsobanis
Corap - Woolen sock- Tsurapis
Corba - soup - Tsorbas
Corek - Large bun - Tsoureki
Cotra - File fish - Tsotra

[George S.]

Does the descriptionTURK GREEKS=PROSFIGES worry you it should because your relatives were the same people exchanged from the coast of Turkey & given Macedonian land In occupied territries.They were called Prosfiges it is in any encyclopaedia.Stop pretending you don't know.Te REAL MACEDONIANS were CALLED ENDOPI which means original settlers.!

[George S.]

Are you scared of Bills List you should because it's not in Macedonian its your fucking TURKISH GREEK Language.YOU should know your own language you should know that these words are your own PROSFIGE language.

[chicagoan]

George,

Pls man....stop repeating the same poem. You sound like a broken record.

[George S.]

You miss the point you are no Macedonians you are just Prosfiges!!

[chicagoan]

ok...tell that to my cousin. He'll laugh in your face...

[George S.]

If you look at your history you haven't got anything its vlach.turkish,slav,Albanian.
You got nothing Man Stop your lying & admit to the truth you arenever had anything,
You are just nothing.I'll let you in on a ittle secret there were no Greeks,there were just Vlachs,turks,slavs,Albanians.Why??Admit it & stop lying you are not worthy of gracing these portals with your drab comments.Come home& admit you are wrong for a change.

[George S.]

What NO Real Greeks in Greece only Vlachs,turks,slavs & Albanians.Where have the REAL GREEKS gone.What happened to them & why.Can anyone guess how many Albanian Presidents Greece has had??Did people know that Greece copied another country's flag.
Did you know the greeks wear the Albanian Dress,with pandolfi.HOw ridiculous it all is.
For GReece to CLaim first there's NO MACEDONIANS & then later TO say THat the GReeks are MACEDONIANS.THis IS A HUUUUUUGE LIE.I think that people do know what a terrible liar Greece is we are going to tell the world about it's Attrocities on the Macedonians.

[chicagoan]

you forgot to mention the jews too...yeah..we are part jewish too.
slavs ? how so...i thought they were linguistic.

Listen man...you need to forget the BS they feed you. You guys flip flop on your positions like pancakes...First subsahran now that mix you described above.

First igenea and then after they got laughed at you will never hear anyone one of you mention that group again. You keep changing...stick a postion.

[chicagoan]

you need a vacation file mou. Come to Greece...relax and enjoy in the sun.
Tell everyone your a proud macedonian...you will have no problems.
Then come back here with an opinion.

[George S.]

Don't forget to lie to yourself you won't lie today of course that's a lie.
Hey man what are you doing wasting your time At MTO you are only fooling yourself.
You don't respect us & we don't respect you.Can i ask you this Question:
WE are Macedonians,We exist,We speak Macedonian.Do you RESPECT THAT???
Yes or NO ???
Well we are waiting

[TrueMacedonian]

I do believe that continuity between us and our ancestors remain. To say the ancient hellenes were completely wiped out as if a UFO came down and picked them all up is wishfull thinking for some ppl to justify their agenda's.

When you say christians of turkey can you provide some examples ?


btw: does your nick mean " teacher " ? Daskalos in greek means teacher...thats why im asking..

And I also heard that Christopher Columbus was an ethnic "greek" whos real name was Christophoros Columbis Now that we got all the jokes out of our system tell us how it is exactly that a bunch of,,,,,lord I wouldn't even know what to call you people anymore,,,,are somehow descended from the dead ancient race of Hellenes? Wishful thinking? However your history was based out of Germany and not in Athens. And certainly not in Macedonia. Be thankful for what they gave you these philhellenes because without them I would think it would be safe to say that your country would've been the "Swiss" model of the balkans.