The Greek "province" of Macedonia, fact or fiction?

[Mr Mousaka]

Cocky mousaka with arvanites primess. Pericles Remix redux wow

Don't insult my arvanite blood!

[Pelister]

And this comes from a Greek that has put a monopoly on everything and everyone in Greece as Greeks from pre-ancient times until today. You even claim that anyone inhabiting northern Greece as a Macedonian and that there is a Macedonian dialect of modern Greek. So please do not talk about a monopoly.

No, the problem is that 'Greek's were never Macedonians.

Its not your land, it never was.

[Makedonetz]

Don't insult my arvanite blood!

No you should mean "Albancite Blood"

[johnMKD]

Use your imagination

My imagination could go really wild, so could you please specify?

[Soldier of Macedon]

Mr Malaka doesn't want to recognise the distinct difference between the Macedonian and Greek dress, so he puts up a label from an 'halva' jar that depicts a woman in Macedonian dress as evidence for the phoney "Greekness" of Macedonia. No amount of imagination can save such idiocy.

[Bratot]

Absolutely agree. But so many stupid Macedonians think there is a reason to back down and negotiate.

Excellent article by Daniel Vasilevski:

The Greek "province" of Macedonia - fact or fiction?

[Daskalot]

Excellent article by Daniel Vasilevski:

The Greek "province" of Macedonia - fact or fiction?

Great article, this FACT should be spread far and wide. Everytime any media in the world referes to the "province" of Macedonia in Greece this thread, the post on our front page or the great article by Daniel should be sent to them as a reference of the FACTS.

DO IT!

[indigen]

Administrative divisions of Greece (2011)

Administrative divisions of Greece (2011)

For the current situation, see administrative divisions of Greece.

From 1 January 2011, in accordance with the Kallikratis plan (Law 3852/2010), the administrative system of Greece will be drastically overhauled. The present system of 13 peripheries, 54 prefectures and 1033 municipalities and communities will be replaced by 7 decentralized administrations, 13 peripheries and 326 municipalities. The peripheries and municipalities will be fully self-governed, while the decentralized administrations will be run by a general secretary appointed by the Greek Government. The Autonomous Monastic State of the Holy Mountain, as an autonomous self-governing entity, is exempt from these reforms.
Contents

* 1 Provisions
* 2 Administration of Attica
* 3 Administration of Macedonia and Thrace
* 4 Administration of Epirus and Western Macedonia
* 5 Administration of Thessaly and Continental Greece
* 6 Administration of the Peloponnese, Western Greece and the Ionian
* 7 Administration of the Aegean
* 8 Administration of Crete

Provisions

* The first level of government will be constituted by the municipalities (δήμοι, sing. δήμος), resulting from the merger of several current municipalities and communities. They will be run by a mayor (δήμαρχος) and a municipal council (δημοτικό συμβούλιο), popularly elected every 5 years. The municipalities will be further subdivided into municipal departments (δημοτικά διαμερίσματα) and finally into communities (κοινότητες). Communities will have their own councils, but their role will be purely advisory to the municipal-level government.

* The second level will be composed of the existing peripheries (περιφέρειες, sing. περιφέρεια), run by a peripheriarch (περιφερειάρχης) and a peripheral council (περιφερειακό συμβούλιο), popularly elected every 5 years. The peripheries will be divided into peripheral units (περιφερειακές ενότητες), usually but not always coterminous with the current prefectures. Each peripheral unit will be headed by a vice-peripheriarch (αντιπεριφερειάρχης), drawn from the same political block as the peripheriarch.

* The third level will be composed of the new decentralized administrations, comprising two or three peripheries (except for Attica and Crete), run by a government-appointed general secretary, assisted by an advisory council drawn from the peripheriarchs and the representatives of the municipalities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Greece_%282011%29

The following related thread should also be read in conjunction with this one:
Greek Name Games

[Risto the Great]

Interesting. Soon (not just yet) they might reinvent themselves one more time and actually have a place simply called "Macedonia" in Greece. But they clearly need more time.

[indigen]

Interesting. Soon (not just yet) they might reinvent themselves one more time and actually have a place simply called "Macedonia" in Greece. But they clearly need more time.

RTG, if you have a read of the following (see highlights), it would appear such an event is highly unlikely:

“Our aim is not to transfer competencies from the state to the regions. Enough competencies have been transferred already. The remaining belong exclusively to the state. We are not ‘cantonizing’ the country.”8

RECENT ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS IN GREECE: ATTEMPTS TOWARDS DECENTRALIZATION, DEMOCRATIC. CONSOLIDATION AND EFFICIENCY. Policy Review Paper. By Maria C. Kapsi ...

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/kokkalis/GSW2/Kapsi.PDF

I recommend a thorough read of the above paper.

Following are some excerpts:

RECENT ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS IN GREECE: ATTEMPTS TOWARDS DECENTRALIZATION, DEMOCRATIC CONSOLIDATION AND EFFICIENCY
Policy Review Paper
By Maria C. Kapsi
Master in Public Administration (Candidate) John F. Kennedy School of Government
PRESENTED AT THE SOCRATES KOKKALIS GRADUATE STUDENT WORKSHOP

FEBRUARY 11-12, 2000

[....]

By the same law, the Greek territory was administratively organized into thirteen conventionally circumscribed regions that correspond to the target-regions of the European structural funds. Some of these transcend the natural geographic territorial fragmentations, as for instance, the division of the Peloponnesian peninsula into two parts, one of which, the area of Patras (Achaia) together with the former “Continental Greece” form a separate region. Although consecutive governments have often tried to sustain so, this fragmentation does not constitute a third level of regional self-administration. These regions are administered by non-elected officials that are directly appointed by the government and represent the state authority.

Despite their ambitious declarations to promote decentralization, the clear intention of almost all governments so far has been to maintain as many powers as possible at the center. Speaking of the second major attempt of administrative reform in the 1990’s, the Capodistrias plan that will be analyzed in the third section, Minister of Interior, Mr. Alekos Papadopoulos bluntly states: “Our aim is not to transfer competencies from the state to the regions. Enough competencies have been transferred already. The remaining belong exclusively to the state. We are not ‘cantonizing’ the country.”8

8 Interview of Minister Alekos Papadopoulos to Paul Klaudianos, published in “Economicos Taxydromos”,October 8, 1998.

[Daniel the Great]

Excellent article by Daniel Vasilevski:

The Greek "province" of Macedonia - fact or fiction?

Great article, this FACT should be spread far and wide. Everytime any media in the world referes to the "province" of Macedonia in Greece this thread, the post on our front page or the great article by Daniel should be sent to them as a reference of the FACTS.

DO IT!

Yes, this is another Greek myth that has been smashed to little pieces and yes this should be seen by everyone, the so called Greek "province" of Macedonia is most certainly FICTION and well "Greek/Greece" is a MYTH that is being exposed more and more.

Oh, and the article is fantastic lol.

[Pelister]

Administrative divisions of Greece (2011)

For the current situation, see administrative divisions of Greece.

From 1 January 2011, in accordance with the Kallikratis plan (Law 3852/2010), the administrative system of Greece will be drastically overhauled. The present system of 13 peripheries, 54 prefectures and 1033 municipalities and communities will be replaced by 7 decentralized administrations, 13 peripheries and 326 municipalities. The peripheries and municipalities will be fully self-governed, while the decentralized administrations will be run by a general secretary appointed by the Greek Government. The Autonomous Monastic State of the Holy Mountain, as an autonomous self-governing entity, is exempt from these reforms.
Contents

* 1 Provisions
* 2 Administration of Attica
* 3 Administration of Macedonia and Thrace
* 4 Administration of Epirus and Western Macedonia
* 5 Administration of Thessaly and Continental Greece
* 6 Administration of the Peloponnese, Western Greece and the Ionian
* 7 Administration of the Aegean
* 8 Administration of Crete

Provisions

* The first level of government will be constituted by the municipalities (δήμοι, sing. δήμος), resulting from the merger of several current municipalities and communities. They will be run by a mayor (δήμαρχος) and a municipal council (δημοτικό συμβούλιο), popularly elected every 5 years. The municipalities will be further subdivided into municipal departments (δημοτικά διαμερίσματα) and finally into communities (κοινότητες). Communities will have their own councils, but their role will be purely advisory to the municipal-level government.

* The second level will be composed of the existing peripheries (περιφέρειες, sing. περιφέρεια), run by a peripheriarch (περιφερειάρχης) and a peripheral council (περιφερειακό συμβούλιο), popularly elected every 5 years. The peripheries will be divided into peripheral units (περιφερειακές ενότητες), usually but not always coterminous with the current prefectures. Each peripheral unit will be headed by a vice-peripheriarch (αντιπεριφερειάρχης), drawn from the same political block as the peripheriarch.

* The third level will be composed of the new decentralized administrations, comprising two or three peripheries (except for Attica and Crete), run by a government-appointed general secretary, assisted by an advisory council drawn from the peripheriarchs and the representatives of the municipalities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Greece_%282011%29

The following related thread should also be read in conjunction with this one:
Greek Name Games

This is how they are stealing an identity for themselves - they are New Greeks who OCCUPY this land, they are on land they that they are not native to, they have never called themselves Macedonians, either on their traditional lands in Turkey, nor hear, and now they want the world to know they are 'Macedonians'?