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Originally posted by TajnataKnigait seems us macedonians all we do is blame everyone for our mistakes instead of taking responsibility for our mistakes.
And irrespective of how many Macedonians there are to blame, that still does not discount the fact that America is responsible for saving our enemies during 2001 when we had it all but won.
Let's try and remain objective here. Why are some of you so pro-US knowing what they have done to our people and state?In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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the world is your oyster, use it to promote the facts. i think the US has helped us a lot, yes they are to blame for many things, and different US governments act differently, but deep down i feel the US is a true friend to macedonia and really wants to help us. its up to us to take advantage of that. in 2001, macedonians were not united (we're still not!), and you cannot claim we almost won. albanians from the diaspora were plugging millions, and tons of albanians went back to fight. how many macedonians from the diaspora plugged in money to the macedonian army for arms and how many macedonians went back to fight?
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Originally posted by TajnataKnigain 2001, macedonians were not united (we're still not!), and you cannot claim we almost won. albanians from the diaspora were plugging millions, and tons of albanians went back to fight. how many macedonians from the diaspora plugged in money to the macedonian army for arms and how many macedonians went back to fight?
How that relates to how much diaspora Macedonians and ethnic Albanians travelling to Macedonia for the war I don't know. Perhaps you can explain it to me. If more Macedonians from the diaspora went, it would have stopped America from saving their real friends, the ethnic Albanians?In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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TK, Very little thats for sure, less then $1 Million which is nothing when your country is at war. We have to blame ourselves before we can blame others, USA has a bad policy towards other countries that is true however we cant run from the fact that people like Ljubco Georgievski, Branko Crvenkovski,Kiro Gligorov,Boris Trajkovski sold us out and we cant blame anybody but ourselves for it. Its all about how we portray ourselves if we portray ourselves as Rugs then people are going to walk all over us its always been that way.
I dont look at as fighting other peoples war, our soldiers are professionals and it is a big favor for the coalition and we should be doing more to get the best out of it. I wouldnt applaud going to war or sending more troops for America's war however that is what our soldiers are trained for to go to missions and to be prepared. If they are not in Afghanistan or Iraq they will probably go to Bosnia or Lebanon we do have troops stationed there.
TK, What are your thoughts about the war on terror?МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostThe last part of your paragraph is not relevant to the first part. Macedonian victory was imminent in Aracinovo during 2001, the terrorists were closed in and had nowhere to go, that is, until our 'best friends' the Americans came in and gave them safe passage.
How that relates to how much diaspora Macedonians and ethnic Albanians travelling to Macedonia for the war I don't know. Perhaps you can explain it to me. If more Macedonians from the diaspora went, it would have stopped America from saving their real friends, the ethnic Albanians?
bush made the call on aracinovo, and butler implemented it.
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Arachinovo was nothing compared to what happened in Radusha, in one day the KLA had the most casualties thats why they imposed no fly zones there.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Originally posted by Prolet View PostTK, Very little thats for sure, less then $1 Million which is nothing when your country is at war. We have to blame ourselves before we can blame others, USA has a bad policy towards other countries that is true however we cant run from the fact that people like Ljubco Georgievski, Branko Crvenkovski,Kiro Gligorov,Boris Trajkovski sold us out and we cant blame anybody but ourselves for it. Its all about how we portray ourselves if we portray ourselves as Rugs then people are going to walk all over us its always been that way.
I dont look at as fighting other peoples war, our soldiers are professionals and it is a big favor for the coalition and we should be doing more to get the best out of it. I wouldnt applaud going to war or sending more troops for America's war however that is what our soldiers are trained for to go to missions and to be prepared. If they are not in Afghanistan or Iraq they will probably go to Bosnia or Lebanon we do have troops stationed there.
TK, What are your thoughts about the war on terror?
my thoughts on the war on terror? i think there is a problem for sure, im quite concerned about political islam, or radical islam. iran will be a problem in the future if democracy does not take greater root there. i see a lot of hope for the middle east and greater improvement, but pakistan and afghanistan still a big problem. it will take years. but i strongly believe the US and other countries needed to go into iraq and afghanistan. sorry im biased, US, australia, macedonia everyone wants the spoils of the riches. a lot of macedonians work in iraq and afghanistan, and to my knowledge few macedonian companies are involved there. good for them! profits!
watch michael moore's movies on the war on terror, you would be surprised. i am still amazed how a plane could get so close to the pentagon.
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Originally posted by Prolet View PostTK, Very little thats for sure, less then $1 Million which is nothing when your country is at war. We have to blame ourselves before we can blame others, USA has a bad policy towards other countries that is true however we cant run from the fact that people like Ljubco Georgievski, Branko Crvenkovski,Kiro Gligorov,Boris Trajkovski sold us out and we cant blame anybody but ourselves for it. Its all about how we portray ourselves if we portray ourselves as Rugs then people are going to walk all over us its always been that way.
I dont look at as fighting other peoples war, our soldiers are professionals and it is a big favor for the coalition and we should be doing more to get the best out of it. I wouldnt applaud going to war or sending more troops for America's war however that is what our soldiers are trained for to go to missions and to be prepared. If they are not in Afghanistan or Iraq they will probably go to Bosnia or Lebanon we do have troops stationed there.
TK, What are your thoughts about the war on terror?
Just quietly I knew of a few Slovene and Croat lads that went back home during the war….. Even remember hearing about a Hungarian dude my familiy used to know going back to Croatia to fight the serbs who were at his village. Crazy hey?
Remember a lot of “Muslim freedom fighters” went to Kosovo and Macedonia to help their “brothers”. Prolet where were the Orthodox Brothers? We had people volunteering from Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Grease, Serbia and even little Armenia hidden away in Asia – making their way to Bosnia and Kosovo to fight for the Orthodox family? Seems like they must have not heard about the Macedonian churches being destroyed by shiptar animals….
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Originally posted by TajnataKnigabush made the call on aracinovo, and butler implemented it.
The fact is, had not the Americans involved themselves in 2001, things would be much different in Macedonia, and Macedonians would not have to be forced into a position of acceptance. Instead, thanks to American intervention, we now have known terrorists like Ahmeti and co. freely walking around Skopje, and in and out of our parliament.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostAnd the Macedonians were left with hands tied, while the ethnic Albanian terrorists were free to exit.
The fact is, had not the Americans involved themselves in 2001, things would be much different in Macedonia, and Macedonians would not have to be forced into a position of acceptance. Instead, thanks to American intervention, we now have known terrorists like Ahmeti and co. freely walking around Skopje, and in and out of our parliament.
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BBS, Very Little mate however now its different our army is much better prepared and equipped, they are going after the Criminals look at what happened in Brodec they trapped them like rats, to me the Alfa Units are brilliant.
I remember at one stage how there were reports that the Alfa Units are not active in Debar, around 30 of them went there and took out the whole city and arrested the biggest criminals and drug lords. The Albanians where powerless to do anything about it.
We are giving the Albanians far too much respect then what they are worth, i think even now the Ethnic Albanian Policemen are going to the strongholds and taking them out. Kondovo is a well known drug base for them, an Ethnic Albanian head chief arrested alot of them so in the end they put out a hit on him and killed him because he done too much damage, but now Police can go anywhere and usually when there are problems with Albanians the Albanian Policemen go to sort it out like what happened in Kondovo and Arachinovo.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Originally posted by Buktop View PostShow me valid regulations that state they must have elections.
UMD appears to, or does, operate in a VRHOVIST (from the top (Vrv) down) manner and this would make it an unhealthy organisation. With the likes of A1 (should be a concern for those with alert minds) promoting a cult of personality around Meto Koloski, who, IMO, is an ideologically flawed character and IS a DETRIMENT to the Macedonian cause. IME, in all this hoopla about UMD, Macedonians are being DIVERTED from DILIGENT attention and course of action needed to reverse the already enacted deconstruction measures of Macedonian state, ethno-national identity and cultural-linguistic heritage and from organising effective resistance to prevent further PLANNED DECONSTRUCTION.
Gospodinot Antonio Miloshoski ne e predavnik nitu se chuvstvuva kako
bugarin. Mojata familija se znae dosta dobro so negovata familija.
Jas go poznavam lichno brat mu no za zhal nesum go zapoznal Antonio.
Antonio ima mnogu napraveno za Makedonija i se nadevam khe prodolzhi
taka.
MPO ne e isto kako shto beshe pred nekolku godini, so tekot na
godinite, i so doajganje zachlenuvanje na novi lichnosti, MPO odi na
pravilen pat. Veruvaj ili ne, toa e tvoe pravo, kako shto i jas imam
pravo da mislam deka za 5 godini MPO khe bidi chista Makedonska
organizacija.
Wed Oct 6, 2004 3:58 am
"Metodija A. Koloski" <MKoloski@...>
mkoloski2000
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Macedo...r/message/4306Ima vejkhe vesnik za Makedoncite vo SAD i toa e Makedonska Tribuna.
Toj vesnik se pechati od 1922.
Thu Aug 12, 2004
"Metodija A. Koloski" <MKoloski@...>
mkoloski2000
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Mislenjeto za MPO i za Makedonska Tribuna e od sekogas isto, gospodine
Koloski - Probugarsko stojaliste i voopsto neprifatlivo za Makedoncite.
Prvo i najvazno e jazikot, odnosno pismoto sto e odma vidlivo, a potoa
navistina najvaznoto e nivnata platforma.
So pocit, S.
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:00 pm
S.
Fri Aug 13, 2004
"Metodija A. Koloski: "....Another confusion is the use of
"Bulgarian" language in their newspaper, which I highly recommend
subscribing to, very informative, no offense to anyone here. I'm
subscribed to the Tribune because I want to learn what MPO does
and also because it is in English and that is the language I was
educated in.....they asked him about the Bulgarian language use.
The MPO director said that this language is the language they
always spoke, and that it is a Macedonian language. In fact, the
language they speak is the language before Blaze Konevski did a
reorganization of the Macedonian language in the 40s and 50s
taking out the iy, yu, ya "meki znaci," and replacing them with
Serbian ones....
....If anyone did anything to spite someone, it was the church's
decision to hold their convention during the same weekend as the MPO
one. I suggest a Church convention during Memorial Day Weekend,
because having two conventions at the same time in the same place
will be hectic. Also for some of us that want to attend the MPO
convention cannot because the church convention is the same weekend....
....To see a list of all MPO conventions go to macedonian.org click on MPO
and then MPO activities. Just because you attend an MPO event does
not meant your a pro-Bulgarian...".
"...I'm a proud American myself. I was born and raised in America,
America gave me my education, not Macedonia....
....I have voiced out my opinion on MPO, and the way of feel,
nobody will change my views...
....We can work with MPO, believe me. What about the Pan-Macedonian
Association, which in fact are really ethnic Macedonians, but have
developed a pro-Greek national consciousness?"
To learn more about Boris Trajkovski and the Foundation, please visit
May he rest in peace and may he be remembered for the good that he did
for Macedonia, the Macedonian people, and the world! Bog da go prosti!
Wed Aug 25, 2004
"Metodija A. Koloski" <MKoloski@...>
mkoloski2000
Predavnickiot Ohridski 2001!?
Boris Trajkovski Predavnik?
Gospodinot Najdovski, ve molam da ni objasnite detalno zoshto go
razchunate pokojniot pretsedatel za predavnik?
Sun Aug 29, 2004
"Metodija A. Koloski" <MKoloski@...>
mkoloski2000
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Indigen, Whos gospodinot Najdovski? Does he mean Ico Najdovski?МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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