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  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13675

    Greek Name Games

    The actions of Greece over the past two decades with regard to its unwarranted demands from Macedonia to change its name, not only go against the fundamental right of a people to their native identity, but also expose Greece for the hypocritical state that it is. Since Greece was awarded the territories of southern Macedonia and Thrace after the Balkan Wars of 1912-13, the names of the 'new territories' (as they were commonly known) were altered several times, and all during turbulent times in the region. Greece's indecisive and impulsive nature with regard to the names of their 'new territories' demonstrates a complete lack of uniformity where it concerns the views and policies in relation to these areas and Greek-occupied Macedonia in particular.

    Here is a chronology of Greek name games in the 'new territories' of their own state during the 20th century:

    31 December 1914, General Government of Macedonia.
    At some point it is no longer in existence, was this due to WWII or events prior?

    20 January 1945, General Government of Macedonia and General Government of Thrace reinstated.
    Only three months later and a name change, why? No more entity known simply as 'Macedonia'.
    21 March 1945, General Government of Northern Greece established, which includes;
    • General Government of Western Macedonia
    • General Government of Central Macedonia
    • General Government of Eastern Macedonia and Thrace
    18 March 1947, General Governments of Western and Eastern Macedonia are abolished.
    Why were they abolished during the Greek Civil War?

    26 August 1971, District Governments of Western and Central Macedonia, and, Eastern Macedonia and Thrace, are established.
    So from three to two entities.
    20 November 1974, Ministry of Northern Greece is reinstated.
    Northern Greece is officially back at the close of the Greek Junta.

    19 August 1988, Ministry of Northern Greece is renamed to Ministry of Macedonia-Thrace.
    Why the sudden urge to rename it after a good stable 14 years as Northern Greece? Could it be because of the imminent trouble and break-up in Yugoslavia which would result in a free Macedonian republic?

    The above demonstrates that since the end of WWII at no time has there been one entity with a local government that has been called simply 'Macedonia' in Greece, instead we have a combination of GEOGRAPHICAL IDENTIFIERS to distinguish multiple regions at various times.

    Take note also of when 'Northern Greece' is introduced as the general name of the area, in 1945 just prior to the Greek Civil War which was basically a battle between Macedonians and Greeks on many fronts, in 1974 when the Greek Junta concludes, and in 1988 prior to the independence of the Macedonian Republic only three years later. It seems that the conditions and lively state of the Macedonians coincided with and possibly even dictated at least two of these decisions.

    Greece should keep using geographical identifiers, Macedonians will simply keep using Republic of Macedonia or Macedonia or MKD alternatively, as is our right.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #2
    Great thread SoM, I will add some usefull information shortely.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15660

      #3
      What interesting research SoM.
      At two of the most turbulent times in Greece's recent history, Greece abandoned the Macedonian name. After the "Greek" civil war and 400 million dollars (Today's value = $3,840,000,000.00) of USA firepower to literally napalm the Macedonian spirit and after the Junta when everyone feared living in a police State would continue forever.

      A mother never abandons its child. Yet Greece did this more than once. More evidence of an unholy alliance ... Greece and Macedonia.

      Clearly this has happened after times of great unrest in Greece. The Greek fear of Macedonians rising up against the injustices perpetrated against them exists to this day. With hundreds of thousands of Greeks rioting in the streets of Athens, now is again the time when Greece needs to wash away the collective memory of the Macedonians again. Will they do it? Will Greece rename its peripheries again? Who knows .... Lord knows they have enough problems on their hands. The name dispute is not going to keep Greek citizens blindly content anymore. In fact it serves as a reminder of all that is bad in Greece.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • indigen
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 1558

        #4
        RECENT ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS IN GREECE: ATTEMPTS TOWARDS DECENTRALIZATION, DEMOCRATIC. CONSOLIDATION AND EFFICIENCY. Policy Review Paper. By Maria C. Kapsi ...


        I recommend a thorough read of the above paper.

        Following are some excerpts:

        RECENT ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS IN GREECE: ATTEMPTS TOWARDS DECENTRALIZATION, DEMOCRATIC CONSOLIDATION AND EFFICIENCY
        Policy Review Paper
        By Maria C. Kapsi
        Master in Public Administration (Candidate) John F. Kennedy School of Government
        PRESENTED AT THE SOCRATES KOKKALIS GRADUATE STUDENT WORKSHOP

        FEBRUARY 11-12, 2000

        [....]

        By the same law, the Greek territory was administratively organized into thirteen conventionally circumscribed regions that correspond to the target-regions of the European structural funds. Some of these transcend the natural geographic territorial fragmentations, as for instance, the division of the Peloponnesian peninsula into two parts, one of which, the area of Patras (Achaia) together with the former “Continental Greece” form a separate region. Although consecutive governments have often tried to sustain so, this fragmentation does not constitute a third level of regional self-administration. These regions are administered by non-elected officials that are directly appointed by the government and represent the state authority.

        Despite their ambitious declarations to promote decentralization, the clear intention of almost all governments so far has been to maintain as many powers as possible at the center. Speaking of the second major attempt of administrative reform in the 1990’s, the Capodistrias plan that will be analyzed in the third section, Minister of Interior, Mr. Alekos Papadopoulos bluntly states: “Our aim is not to transfer competencies from the state to the regions. Enough competencies have been transferred already. The remaining belong exclusively to the state. We are not ‘cantonizing’ the country.”8

        8 Interview of Minister Alekos Papadopoulos to Paul Klaudianos, published in “Economicos Taxydromos”,October 8, 1998.


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        Also, keep track of the current pending reforms known as "Kallikratis plan" for administrative reforms in Greece
        Last edited by indigen; 05-07-2010, 11:58 PM.

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