Greek and Bulgarian Music and culture
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МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Originally posted by Thessaloniki View PostWell my general impression was that Greek traditional songs from Ionian Islands, Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace and Asia Minor are similar to Italian, Albanian, Slav-Macedonian, Serbian, Bulgarian and Turkish respectively.You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!
A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.
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Originally posted by BigMak View PostEmulation of Ethnic Macedonian culture and greeks claiming it as their own is what the modern greek nation is all about............so whats new here?http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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Originally posted by Thessaloniki View PostWell my general impression was that Greek traditional songs from Ionian Islands, Epirus, Macedonia, Thrace and Asia Minor are similar to Italian, Albanian, Slav-Macedonian, Serbian, Bulgarian and Turkish respectively. Occasionally they may be identical or cover-versions of them as you imply.
We call traditional songs the ones of unknown composer; usually that was up to a few decades before the appearance of discography.
The song in your video, according to the video, was written in the 1970s, so it may be in traditional style, but it's not traditional. It sounds typical Epirus song to me though I haven't heard it before.
Though I have Thracian and (Greek) Macedonian ancestry myself I believe Epirus songs are much better, especially the slow and sad ones.
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Our name is our soul - Odysseas ElytisRisto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by BigMak View PostEmulation of Ethnic Macedonian culture and greeks claiming it as their own is what the modern greek nation is all about............so whats new here?
Here's a medley of 6 songs (No 1, 2 and 5 are among the most famous here). I hate medleys.
YouTube - Greek Folk Songs (Makedonitika) by Katevas
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Our name is our soul - Odysseas ElytisLast edited by Thessaloniki; 03-01-2010, 01:17 AM.
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In future, should you wish to distinguish between the Macedonians in Greece and Greece's non-Macedonian citizens that live in the stolen province up north, don't do it at the expense of the (real) Macedonians. You're a geographic Macedonian, just like an ethnic Albanian in the Macedonian republic. Nothing more.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostTry it again Thessalbano-Hellene, I dare you to.
Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostIn future, should you wish to distinguish between the Macedonians in Greece and Greece's non-Macedonian citizens that live in the stolen province up north, don't do it at the expense of the (real) Macedonians. You're a geographic Macedonian, just like an ethnic Albanian in the Macedonian republic. Nothing more.
I would also advise you to act more like an administrator.
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Which 3 of the 4 claims don't you accept?
Why?Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostWhich 3 of the 4 claims don't you accept?
Why?
I'm not Thessalbano-Hellene as far as I know (though I'm not sure if that refers to Thessaloniki or Thessaly)
Apparently I do find the terms Slav-Macedonians and Greek-Macedonians both precise and the best available in order to distinguish, meaning avoiding misunderstanding.
I find nothing common or similar of my situation with what an ethnic Albanian is in your country.
I do call myself a Macedonian (a) based on the whole life residence of me and of my parents in Thessaloniki, (b) based on my partial ancestry of my grandparent and grand-grandparents who were Greek Macedonians living in Kozani and Kavala at the end of 19th century. That is indeed geographic since I do not claim to belong in a distinct Macedonian nationality.
I don't think Greece stole Macedonia from your people, though I'm well aware of your opinion on the issue and partly respect it.
As to who are the real Macedonians, whatever that means, that is the million dollar question.
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Our name is our soul - Odysseas Elytis
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The real Macedonians are the ones who simply call themselves "Macedonian" and fought for that name. The rest are pretenders who need to use "Greek Macedonian" or something like that. They are in fact Greeks.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Actually, we both fight for the name (though not very hard until now). That makes us interested parties, not necessarily real or fake.
Edit: Also, we call ourselves simply Macedonians. We use the explanatory Greek Macedonian only in the discussions with you in order to avoid misunderstanding.
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Our name is our soul - Odysseas ElytisLast edited by Thessaloniki; 03-02-2010, 06:56 PM.
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Actualy, when Thessa says Greek/Macedonian, it some how makes sense to me. Because there are no pure Greek and they are all mixed up, They need to be identified as, Greek/Macedonian, Greek/vlach, Greek/albanians etc. The first part is a geographic term/ second part highlites ethnicity. I very much dought that Thessa's is a Macedonian Ethnic though. So by him claiming to be Greek/Macedonia is incorrect and he needs to discover his true roots.
I know of two Greeks, one comes from Egypt the other Cyprus. One will say he is Greek/Egyption the other Greek/Cypriot. Now that is fucked up, what is a Greek
Hey, sometimes i have heard the Maco's down under are labeled as Australian/Macedonians Now we all know that Macedonia was never part of Australia.http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873
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No, you need to use 'greek macedonian' with everyone outside of greece because there is already a Macedonian nationality accepted by the majority of the world. You are simply confusing people, and are also being racist towards us Macedonians. I find the term 'slav-macedonians' severely racist when directed towards us Macedonians.
Shouldn't you guys be using 'macedonian greek', seeing as you see yourselves ethnically as greek, and macedonians geographically? You created your own confusion, and stop incorporating us as part of that confusion. You don't need to speak on behalf of us, we'll tell our own story.You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!
A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.
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Originally posted by Thessaloniki View PostActually, we both fight for the name (though not very hard until now). That makes us interested parties, not necessarily real or fake.
Edit: Also, we call ourselves simply Macedonians. We use the explanatory Greek Macedonian only in the discussions with you in order to avoid misunderstanding.
You don't call yourself simply "Macedonians". You call yourself Greek Macedonians everywhere else in the world. Unless you say you are not ethnically Greek.
Are you saying you are not ethnically Greek?Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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