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  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8533

    Helvetia,

    All that Yugoslav stuff earned you our special yugo nostalgia badge. Wear it with pride.
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • julie
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 3869

      Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
      Helvetia,

      All that Yugoslav stuff earned you our special yugo nostalgia badge. Wear it with pride.


      Vangelovski, thanks for the laugh!
      Now I know and remember who Helvetia reminds me of!
      "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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      • Onur
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 2389

        Originally posted by Helvetia View Post
        The Swiss were bound together long before they became rich. They loved the idea of democracy, and didn't felt so different to other peoples nearby so they came together and formed a confederation. Your argument that because Switzerland is multilingual, it must mean they are multiethnic. That's where you're wrong.
        The only difference between Switzerland and Belgium is the former created earlier than the latter. It doesn't matter much what people thinks themselves because people`s thoughts can be manipulated/changed by using some tools, just like it has been done to you in Yugo era, instead of that you gotta look at the facts. You cannot create an identity in a day, it`s process which gets evolved in centuries and first of all, you need more or less, a distinct language. Swiss people never had this at all.

        South Slavs wanted Yugoslavia, not just the great powers. While the creation was approved by the great powers, yes but the Yugoslavia idea was invented by South Slavs and desired by many at the time.
        Ohh yeah, ask that to the Bosnians or 10.000s of killed/expelled Hungarians in Banat region or the assassinated 100s of Croatians by the chetniks during the creation of yugoslavia. Ask their descendants about whether they approved the idea or not.

        Why I despair at the dissolution of Yugoslavia is not because I fear Germany or Austria who are obviously non-threats today but because I worry about rising Turkey. We don't need a non-European country interfering in our affairs nor do we need your country to be an economic force taking over our assets with your money.
        Turkey interferes to who, when, how??? Show me just one example of that since 1912. Don't forget that the Yugoslavia has been invaded by Germans and Italians during that time.

        Other than that, i sense a presence of a delusional south slav, orthodox mujaheddin here. Why you feel in this way? Who gives you this ridicules and fake duty of "stopping the Turkish advance"? Whats your personal and your country`s gain with that? You adopted this idiotic duty to yourself to make your local child molester priest happy? or to make EU globalist freaks happy???

        Yugoslavia was the only tool that could've helped us develop and block Turkey from coming back to Europe but sadly, that didn't happen.
        Who is "us"?? Yugo slavs? Who were south slavs? Was there ever an identity like that? It was as plastic as current Belgian identity and you were supposedly stop so-called "Turkish advance" with that??

        You guys are fighting with ghosts
        Last edited by Onur; 09-21-2011, 10:18 AM.

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          helvetia is probably fyrom>judging from the stupid remarks it may as well be fyrom.
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • Helvetia
            Banned
            • Sep 2011
            • 39

            Um, first of all, I don't know who FYROM is. Second of all, I'm gone, you guys have been very insulting without any real basis.

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            • slovenec zrinski
              Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 385

              Last pages kind of reminds u of a wolfpack on the hunt Really...

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                stop your bs you clown your so stupid you fogot to take your stupid clown avatar.Also the stupid things you say are exactly what fyrom the clown would say..Good riddance you are sure to come back as bozo the clown.The fyromian clown.
                Last edited by George S.; 09-21-2011, 04:58 PM. Reason: ed
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • Zarni
                  Banned
                  • May 2011
                  • 672

                  Come one people we have just isolated a another Macedonain from our Forum we should have gave him a chance he wasn't like that Albanian scumbag who showed his true colors and wasnt shown the boot

                  I hope you read this Helvetia be a little more thick skinned it is an Internet Forum after all

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                  • Niko777
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1895

                    Macedonia is failing to see that the Macedonian language unites everyone in the country, whether you are Macedonian, Albanian, Turkish, Vlah...

                    The Muslims in Macedonia should also use Macedonian as the official language in mosques. Albanians are not the only muslims, there are also Turks, Bosnians, and Romas, and when Albanians use only their language in religious services this is an insult to the other Muslim minorities.

                    There has been some recent news in the media where Macedonian ministers of Albanian origin are now only using the Albanian language on official occasions (ex. diplomatic meetings, press releases, speeches, etc.) This is high treason! Ministers of Macedonia should not use a foreign language when representing Macedonia abroad, or when addressing the Macedonian public. 75% of Macedonia does not speak Albanian!!

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                    • Vangelovski
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 8533

                      Originally posted by Helvetia View Post
                      Um, first of all, I don't know who FYROM is. Second of all, I'm gone, you guys have been very insulting without any real basis.
                      Grow up mate. Firstly, its an internet forum and secondly, noone even knows you're real identity so the most we've done is insult a fake internet persona.
                      If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                      The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                      • cultea
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 126

                        Originally posted by George S. View Post
                        stop your bs you clown your so stupid you fogot to take your stupid clown avatar.Also the stupid things you say are exactly what fyrom the clown would say..Good riddance you are sure to come back as bozo the clown.The fyromian clown.
                        This guy was certainly NOT Ozimak, because his answers were short and precise. An overall interesting case that reminded me more of users like Ivo or Currency Trader, though he had some unique and bizarre ideas. It's a pity, you are all a little crazy but moderators should restrain the members instead of fuelling things without a reason.

                        By the way, I miss Ozimak and he certainly did not deserve his mistreatment, especially since he was a very old member.

                        A propaganda forum (any propaganda forum) is of course an oxymoron, since freedom of speech is against the effective promotion of very restricted ideas, but some balance can be found.

                        Vangelovski (and even you Risto the Great) calm down!!

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                        • Phoenix
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4671

                          Originally posted by cultea View Post
                          This guy was certainly NOT Ozimak, because his answers were short and precise. An overall interesting case that reminded me more of users like Ivo or Currency Trader, though he had some unique and bizarre ideas. It's a pity, you are all a little crazy but moderators should restrain the members instead of fuelling things without a reason.

                          By the way, I miss Ozimak and he certainly did not deserve his mistreatment, especially since he was a very old member.

                          A propaganda forum (any propaganda forum) is of course an oxymoron, since freedom of speech is against the effective promotion of very restricted ideas, but some balance can be found.

                          Vangelovski (and even you Risto the Great) calm down!!
                          I'm somewhat amazed by the level of tolerance displayed by the Administrators of this forum for the likes of the 'Ozimaks' and most surprisingly for the 'greeks' that wander through here...I've argued for years the futility of the 'greek' presence on Macedonian forums.

                          If I had access to the 'delete' button, none of you 'greek' fucks would be in here.
                          Last edited by Phoenix; 09-22-2011, 07:54 AM.

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                          • Niko777
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1895

                            Macedonia's Vice Premier Xhaferi is in the USA today visiting the Albanian-American Council.



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                            • Niko777
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1895

                              Some of the hundreds of Albanian mansions in rural communities Kicevo - Gostivar - Tetovo:

















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                              • George S.
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10116

                                here we are slaving away in foreign lands & the albanians are building super duper mansions.
                                It all seems just a waste of time trying to make ends meet .Where is all that money coming from & the govt is turning a blind eye.
                                Last edited by George S.; 09-26-2011, 11:49 PM. Reason: ed
                                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                                GOTSE DELCEV

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