Bad press in SMH

[VMRO]

What sort of a moronic generalisation was that? I suspect some of those people you refer to as 'gjuci' care more for the integrity of Macedonia than you do.

My closest friends are Romi from Macedonia. The Romi i know are good people and respect Macedonians and Macedonia as it is where they originate from too.

[Bij]

Interesting that they didn't mention the brides age in the article

[EgejskaMakedonia]

Man jailed for beating new wife on day of their wedding reception

By Norrie Ross From: Herald Sun April 15, 2011 2:18PM

The groom was sentenced to at least two and a half years in jail for his attack on his new wife / AAP AAP

Bridegroom committed "cowardly, aggressive act"
Assaulted wife in front of horrified bridal party
Wife left bloodied and bruised after attack
A DRUNKEN bridegroom who beat up his new partner in the back of a stretch Hummer limo on the way to their reception must serve at least 15 months in jail.

Judge John Smallwood told Adnan Rusanovski he had committed a cowardly and very aggressive attack, leaving his new bride black and blue and covered in blood.

He said Rusanovski, 30, punched and choked Ferdie Rusanovski, 28, and bit her on the cheek and put her in a headlock as their bridesmaid, best man and a bridal party of teenagers and a nine-year-old pageboy looked on in horror.

"The assault was carried out in the presence of young people who were going to enjoy what was in effect a wedding day,'' Judge Smallwood said in his County Court sentence.

"Your totally innocent wife was assaulted over an extended period of time.''

Rusanovski is an Australian of Albanian Macedonian background, the judge said, and he had a short courtship with Ferdie before they married in Macedonia.

The newlyweds returned to Melbourne and the assault occurred on the day of a cultural celebration of the marriage before family and friends.

Rusanovski, a tiler, of Hallam, pleaded guilty to one count of recklessly causing serious injury on May 23 last year.

Judge Smallwood said he accepted that that on the big day Rusanovski was nervous and he told his best man Murat Abazi "I can't do this straight''.

Rusanovski spent the next two hours sharing a bottle of Scotch with the best man and after he got into the bridal party car he demanded a bottle of champagne.

Judge Smallwood said the newlyweds were on their way to Parliament House to have photographs taken when Rusanovski became aggressive.

At Parliament House Rusanovski could hardly stand, was abusive and he argued with another bridal party.

The photographer decided to take them to Docklands for more photographs and on the way the judge said Rusanvoski struggled with the best man then grabbed his wife by the hair and launched a vicious assault.

As a result of the attack Ferdie had a black eye, multiple facial bruises and was covered in blood.

Justice Smallwood said Ms Rusanovski said on the day of their wedding celebration her husband "looked weird and his eyes looked very strange''.

It is believed she is now divorcing him.

Judge Smallwood said he reluctantly accepted that Rusanovski's bipolar condition may have contributed to the assault but he must go to jail.

He set a maximum term of two years and six months.

Unlike the first article, at least this one clears things up a little bit.

[Bill77]

Unlike the first article, at least this one clears things up a little bit.

Or does it???

What is a "Albanian Macedonian" is it the same thing as when a Greek says "Greek Macedonian"?

I am confused

[fyrOM]

Or does it???

What is a "Albanian Macedonian" is it the same thing as when a Greek says "Greek Macedonian"?

I am confused

Only if they are Greeks living in/from Macedonia. You are being facetious, right?

Ofcourse the guy is a Albanian Macedonian.

Aren't you a Macedonian Australian?

[Bill77]

Only if they are Greeks living in/from Macedonia. You are being facetious, right?


Aren't you a Macedonian Australian?

Depends what you ask. Ethnicity, country of birth, place of residency? and i will tell you what i am

And if you are a Greek living in Macedonia, You are a Greek full stop.

Ofcourse the guy is a Albanian Macedonian.

Ok then, i am a Macedonian Macedonian.

A more correct description of this turd would have been "Rusanovski is a Ethnic Albanian from Macedonia now an Australian citizen". This would have clarified any miss understanding and not drag Ethnic Macedonians through the mud. It can also clear up any confusion that an outsider might think Macedonia is Albanian.

[makedonin]

We have to abandon this Greek tactic of territorial identity.

There are only Macedonians, no such thing as Macedonian Australian, Macedonian American, Macedonian German or what ever else there might be invented.

There are Macedonians who live in Australia, America, Germany or in the Republic etc.

Same thing with Albanians. Albanians who live in Albania or Macedonia or else where in the world.

[fyrOM]

A more correct description of this turd would have been "Rusanovski is a Ethnic Albanian from Macedonia now an Australian citizen". This would have clarified any miss understanding and not drag Ethnic Macedonians through the mud.

Could not agree with you more. I really hate it when some idiot does something stupid and the Aussie press calls them just a Macedonian when they are not an ethnic Macedonian - I meet a lot of people and for some time after such an event people give you a funny look with their eyes when first hearing I'm Macedonian - as if to say, "Are you one of Those people, like the idiot guy on the news?"

Unfortunately the press doesn't use a clear definition like yours and the best we can hope for is XXXX Macedonian.

And if you are a Greek living in Macedonia, You are a Greek full stop.

Funny you should mention this, as in my prediction, (previously said - different thread), I think Aegean Macedonia will get autonomous or semi-autonomous status eventually and then it will be interesting how to define the term "Greek Macedonian"?

[Onur]

Could not agree with you more. I really hate it when some idiot does something stupid and the Aussie press calls them just a Macedonian when they are not an ethnic Macedonian - I meet a lot of people and for some time after such an event people give you a funny look with their eyes when first hearing I'm Macedonian - as if to say, "Are you one of Those people, like the idiot guy on the news?"

I can understand you since we face with the same thing all the time. Whenever a Kurd from Iraqi border kills his own daughter or somethin like that, it gets on the foreign newspapers as "Turkish people does that". Most Europeans also regards us like we are quite same as the former Turkish citizens in Germany but which in fact, most of these people are Kurds.

I think we have to live with it cuz usually newspapers, media doesn't interest with the details like that, they just relate the events however they want.

[EgejskaMakedonia]

Or does it???

What is a "Albanian Macedonian" is it the same thing as when a Greek says "Greek Macedonian"?

I am confused

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. What I was trying to imply though, which isn't obvious in the article, is that reports show he is an Albanian from Macedonia.

It depends in what context you base it. Nationality is often tied to ethnicity, but it can also be the country you were born in (i.e citizenship).

It sounds a lot clearer saying for example, 'They are an Australian born Macedonian,' rather than 'Australian Macedonian,' but don't they essentially mean the same thing?

Australia is a multicultural society and the term seems much more suitable, but when we look at the same case, such as a Greek born in Macedonia or vice versa, concerns start to emerge. If the Greeks did not intrude on the Macedonian name, history and identity, would one have an issue with calling themselves Macedonian Greek or what not, if they were born in Greece?
Difficult to answer given the current circumstances, but interested to see everyones opinions.

[Bill77]

I understand where you are coming from, and I agree to an extent. What I was trying to imply though, which isn't obvious in the article, is that reports show he is an Albanian from Macedonia.

It depends in what context you base it. Nationality is often tied to ethnicity, but it can also be the country you were born in (i.e citizenship).

It sounds a lot clearer saying for example, 'They are an Australian born Macedonian,' rather than 'Australian Macedonian,' but don't they essentially mean the same thing?

Australia is a multicultural society and the term seems much more suitable, but when we look at the same case, such as a Greek born in Macedonia or vice versa, concerns start to emerge. If the Greeks did not intrude on the Macedonian name, history and identity, would one have an issue with calling themselves Macedonian Greek or what not, if they were born in Greece?
Difficult to answer given the current circumstances, but interested to see everyones opinions.

Not a problem Mate

I was having a go at who ever wrote the article. Lets look at what he wrote again, and i want to make another point.

"Rusanovski is an Australian of Albanian Macedonian background"

You notice how he tries to distance Rusanovski and giving Australians a bad name by passing it off as a Macedonian thing? I bet if he cured cancer or rescued a cat from a tree, He would have been an "AUSTRALIAN" and Macedonian would not have been mentioned.