Translation Please

[El Bre]

Could one of our Greek speakers please translate the following passage please.

Πολιτικός μας αντιπρόσωπός είναι ο κύριος Καραμανλής, οι πρόγονοι του οποίου, προέρχονται ως Καραμανλήδες από την Καππαδοκία, όντας μέλη ενός λαού ιρανικής προέλευσης, δηλαδή Περσικής, οι οποίοι λόγω του εκχριστιανισμού μεταβλήθηκαν σε Ρωμαίους (δηλαδή Ρωμιούς), και αργότερα σε Έλληνες, ελθόντες στην Μακεδονία γύρω στον 20 αιώνα.

It's from an article by Nakratzas. Just wondering what it says.

Thanks in advance.

[Alk]

Our political representative is Mr Karamanlis, whose anchestors originate from the Karamanlides from Kappadokia (Karaman), being members of a peoples of Iranian origin, to say Persian, who due to their christianization transformend into Romans (Romii) and later on into Greeks comers in Macedonia around 20th century.

[Jankovska]

Oh so he is a Persian(Iranian) Romano Greek Macedonian.
Wow

[Daskalot]

Our political representative is Mr Karamanlis, whose anchestors originate from the Karamanlides from Kappadokia (Karaman), being members of a peoples of Iranian origin, to say Persian, who due to their christianization transformend into Romans (Romii) and later on into Greeks comers in Macedonia around 20th century.

So it is true, I have heard that their old family name was Kalaycioglu.

Taken from an old wikipedia article that has been edited by our patriotic Greeks whom do not like to know the truth.

Earlier Karamanlis

Karamanlis's forefathers lived in Karaman, Turkey. The family's former (Turkish) surname was Kalaycioglu. When the family left Turkey, they changed their surname into Karamanlis.

El Bre could you give us a reference to the article itself?

[Petros Houhoulis]

So it is true, I have heard that their old family name was Kalaycioglu.

Taken from an old wikipedia article that has been edited by our patriotic Greeks whom do not like to know the truth.




El Bre could you give us a reference to the article itself?

Well, it is quite difficult to collaborate the story. In any case:

Karaman is indeed a place in Turkey, and more accurately a name with a Turkish meaning (kara means black in Turkish)

Karamanlis' family were in Macedonia prior to the 20th century. He was born at 1907 in Macedonia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_Karamanlis

Thus, any possible arrival of his family from the other side of the Aegean does not relate to population exchanges (at least not the official ones)...

[Truth Bearer]

Karamanlis means black Christian in Turkish.Gee I would have thought you guys knew this from way back.Hello to all nice site here Risto the Great well done.Are you,going to have a more open forum without banishing the ones that disagree with yr theories or will you conduct a civilised forum?Risto I again congratulate you on the new site I don't know how you have got SoM on side as he'll probably ban everyone that doesn't agree with him,after of course abusing the living daylights out of the banned one.Will you allow his gutter language on the forum Risto??

[osiris]

be careful alki you talk to much truth and in the land pf hellas truth is not welcome.

[Daskalot]

Well, it is quite difficult to collaborate the story. In any case:

Karaman is indeed a place in Turkey, and more accurately a name with a Turkish meaning (kara means black in Turkish)

Karamanlis' family were in Macedonia prior to the 20th century. He was born at 1907 in Macedonia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_Karamanlis

Thus, any possible arrival of his family from the other side of the Aegean does not relate to population exchanges (at least not the official ones)...

They most likely arrived in the 19th century.

[Petros Houhoulis]

They most likely arrived in the 19th century.

You cannot conclude that. They might have arrived in the 16th century as well, or maybe they got the name accidentally. It is impossible to determine if you do not find archives that mention something.

[Daskalot]

You cannot conclude that. They might have arrived in the 16th century as well, or maybe they got the name accidentally. It is impossible to determine if you do not find archives that mention something.

In time we will know, Nakratzas found something that collaborates what I found, the truth will come out.

[Traveller]

be careful alki you talk to much truth and in the land pf hellas truth is not welcome.

He is spending your goverment's money...

[Daskalot]

He is spending your goverment's money...

in that case you must be spending yours....

[Traveller]

in that case you must be spending yours....

No i'm not. Why do you answer? I am making a statement. I dont care even for his answer.

[Daskalot]

No i'm not. Why do you answer? I am making a statement. I dont care even for his answer.

Fine, but I saw it fitting to be answered.

[Alk]

He is spending your goverment's money...

To mouni tis manas sou