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From: an67...@anon.penet.fi (Steve Saragil)
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Reply-To: an67...@anon.penet.fi
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:48:53 UTC
Subject: Greece should give up Macedonia!
Lines: 81
First off, I'd like to thank all the Greeks that felt it
prudent, NO, let me rephrase that, imperative to basically
TELL me where to go and where I should stick my views on
my private e-mail! hahahahahaha
You guys are Sooooooo funny...I can't help but laugh!
GET SOME LIVES BOYS!!! hahahah [You know who you are]
Now....
I was talking about the current situation that Macedonia and
Greece is embroiled in with a few people at my university.
The people that discussed this issue were from a wide group of
ethnic backgrounds. Some were Italian, Asian, Indian, German,
French, and the rest mostly Macedonian or Greek.
To my surprise...I thought that most people that heard of the
problem would have said, "man, you guys are at each others
throats. Just give it up, both of you [Macedonian & Greek]"
But what I was told by ALL of the non-Greeks was that they
were on OUR [Macedonian] side on this issue because it would
set a MAJOR international precedent if one country told
another country what to do regarding its domestic and foreign
affairs and that our CASE sounded more credible and concrete
as opposed to the "stories and tales" that the Greeks have
been telling them.
The funny thing, or better yet, pathetic truth is that Greeks
have a thought pattern of saying and truly beleiving that
"Macedonia is Greece" and nothing else. Just like a hypnotist
tells you to beleive something and after hearing it over and
over.....you beleive it!! Greeks always say...Macedonia is
Greece...BUT can NEVER honestly give a historical basis as to
WHY, oh DEAR GOD WHY is it so?
Its always something like, "My father TOLD me..." or "I have always
been taught by my Greek teachers that...". NEVER has it been,
"well I read some books and they state that..." Greeks just do what
they are told...nothing more and nothing less. Puppets!
The BRAINWASHING must stop!!!! I suggest that Greeks revolt against
the Papandreou government before more harm is done to Greece and
DEMAND the truth be told as to why Greece is occupying Macedonia, why
it changed the original names of the villages, rivers, mountains,
and people of Macedonia to Greek and why it still hassles these peace
loving and democratic people.
I myself am one person who had his Macedonian village name changed to
a Greek one, his street changed to "Pavlos Melas Blvd" *PUKE*
his house confiscated by the Greek authorities, surname changed from
a Macedonian one "Saragil" to "Saragiopoulos" [we then changed it back],
etc, etc, etc....
This is something that Greece owes me an official apology for, but I
know I will never get it because of its cowardliness. Just like those
of you who are too cowardly to post to me in public. I feel sorry for
you people. YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING A LIE ALL YOUR LIVES!!!!!
Greeks should pick up a book and read the history of their land from
foreign authors and not from government financed garbage and then
maybe can they see just alittle truth. But don't worry, I don't
expect much from you people. Greeks don't learn anything new, they
just remember the PAST and fight to keep it the way they wrote it.
While other states move into the 21st century with new ideas and
innovations, Greece can feel proud that they have not evolved as have
other societies. They can just pitifully CLING to their past
and remember the time when Greece was a great power in the world, even
though it took a Macedonian to pave the way for them.
On the coat tails of a Macedonian is how Greece will be remembered...
[i guess thats why its so imperative to keep the lies going on
the "greekness" of Alexander the his father Philip of Macedon]
tsk, tsk, I honestly feel sorry for you!
*sigh* oh well....
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From: an67...@anon.penet.fi (Steve Saragil)
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Organization: Anonymous contact service
Reply-To: an67...@anon.penet.fi
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:48:53 UTC
Subject: Greece should give up Macedonia!
Lines: 81
First off, I'd like to thank all the Greeks that felt it
prudent, NO, let me rephrase that, imperative to basically
TELL me where to go and where I should stick my views on
my private e-mail! hahahahahaha
You guys are Sooooooo funny...I can't help but laugh!
GET SOME LIVES BOYS!!! hahahah [You know who you are]
Now....
I was talking about the current situation that Macedonia and
Greece is embroiled in with a few people at my university.
The people that discussed this issue were from a wide group of
ethnic backgrounds. Some were Italian, Asian, Indian, German,
French, and the rest mostly Macedonian or Greek.
To my surprise...I thought that most people that heard of the
problem would have said, "man, you guys are at each others
throats. Just give it up, both of you [Macedonian & Greek]"
But what I was told by ALL of the non-Greeks was that they
were on OUR [Macedonian] side on this issue because it would
set a MAJOR international precedent if one country told
another country what to do regarding its domestic and foreign
affairs and that our CASE sounded more credible and concrete
as opposed to the "stories and tales" that the Greeks have
been telling them.
The funny thing, or better yet, pathetic truth is that Greeks
have a thought pattern of saying and truly beleiving that
"Macedonia is Greece" and nothing else. Just like a hypnotist
tells you to beleive something and after hearing it over and
over.....you beleive it!! Greeks always say...Macedonia is
Greece...BUT can NEVER honestly give a historical basis as to
WHY, oh DEAR GOD WHY is it so?
Its always something like, "My father TOLD me..." or "I have always
been taught by my Greek teachers that...". NEVER has it been,
"well I read some books and they state that..." Greeks just do what
they are told...nothing more and nothing less. Puppets!
The BRAINWASHING must stop!!!! I suggest that Greeks revolt against
the Papandreou government before more harm is done to Greece and
DEMAND the truth be told as to why Greece is occupying Macedonia, why
it changed the original names of the villages, rivers, mountains,
and people of Macedonia to Greek and why it still hassles these peace
loving and democratic people.
I myself am one person who had his Macedonian village name changed to
a Greek one, his street changed to "Pavlos Melas Blvd" *PUKE*
his house confiscated by the Greek authorities, surname changed from
a Macedonian one "Saragil" to "Saragiopoulos" [we then changed it back],
etc, etc, etc....
This is something that Greece owes me an official apology for, but I
know I will never get it because of its cowardliness. Just like those
of you who are too cowardly to post to me in public. I feel sorry for
you people. YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING A LIE ALL YOUR LIVES!!!!!
Greeks should pick up a book and read the history of their land from
foreign authors and not from government financed garbage and then
maybe can they see just alittle truth. But don't worry, I don't
expect much from you people. Greeks don't learn anything new, they
just remember the PAST and fight to keep it the way they wrote it.
While other states move into the 21st century with new ideas and
innovations, Greece can feel proud that they have not evolved as have
other societies. They can just pitifully CLING to their past
and remember the time when Greece was a great power in the world, even
though it took a Macedonian to pave the way for them.
On the coat tails of a Macedonian is how Greece will be remembered...
[i guess thats why its so imperative to keep the lies going on
the "greekness" of Alexander the his father Philip of Macedon]
tsk, tsk, I honestly feel sorry for you!
*sigh* oh well....
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