He means me. My real name is Tomas.
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Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View PostRelax Tom I forgot to put a smiley face I know who you are and I know what you mean.
The word Slav/Slavic has become a disease for the Macedonians as it portrays us in a negative light by the Greeks.अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.
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LOL sorry for the confusion, you are correct Tomas, the Balkans are messed up due to a lot of meddling by foreign powers.Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.
„Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов
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Originally posted by Delodephius View PostYour language is a Slavic language.
See Link: here
That is how your ancestors called it in 862 AD.
Today we call it OLD Slavonic to distinguish it from modern Slavonic/Slavic languages.
When this language was brought to Macedonia
it was accepted by the Macedonians because there was little difference between Macedonian and Slavic.
The language family cannot be called Macedonic
because it wasn't Macedonian that spread throughout Europe,
it was Slavic. In the Middle Ages they didn't speak of a Macedonian language in Germany, they spoke of Slavic (Wendish). They didn't speak of Macedonian in Russia, they spoke of Slavic. They didn't speak of a Macedonian language in the Balkans, they spoke of Slavic.Who were the Slavs then?Last edited by indigen; 06-18-2011, 09:01 AM.
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Oh I'm so not touching this. Yes I'm a coward and I'll hide under my big straw hat.अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.
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But just out of curiosity, Indigen, what is your theory on how "Macedonic" languages spread from Macedonia all over Eastern and Central Europe and are now spoken by more than 300 million people? And when did they spread?अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.
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I'm here to help.
I've read (in this forum) that the history of Alexander the Great was written and distorted by Greek idiots and liars a few centuries after his real life. So, maybe he had conquered a bigger and/or different part of the World.
(Just a theory).
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Originally posted by rosetta View PostI'm here to help.
I've read (in this forum) that the history of Alexander the Great was written and distorted by Greek idiots and liars a few centuries after his real life. So, maybe he had conquered a bigger and/or different part of the World.
(Just a theory).
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Your link is from photo-bucket. Which book is that?
Slavic Languages (as a reference point)
Last edited by rosetta; 06-18-2011, 02:05 PM.
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Ibdigen i remember in the early 1990's when professor peter hill was doing some research into macedonian pecalbari in sydney australia & he was interviewing me & my family of how we came to be etc.
I said to him afterwards that do you have time to get into a long discussion about something on our identity.He said why not.He was saying he was professor of slavonic studies at hamburg university??Anyway i said you specialise in slavonic studies.I said you take a macedonian who thinks he is macedonian,I said there is so much diservice & destruction that referring to one as slav or slav macedonian.I said look at the people in that are meant to reopresent us are letting us down by the refrence to slavs.We went on discussing the slav history etc even to wards prehistoric references,Finally he caved in & said i was right.I explained to him that the so called illiterate slavic hordes went through greece,bulgaria,turkey,albania,Why do we don't classify them as slavic.He realised that we were letting ourselves down by adopting a whole view of slavianism.Also i mentioned over the years all our enemies have been working on overdrive using smear tactics to destroy us & tell us we are nothing but slavs which is false.After this discussion Peter Hill i'm sure was very well informed on the issue.He just said he never thought about it before like that.I said you just remember to tell the real truth about slavianism & where it stands in relation to macedonians.Also since then over the years i have informed other members in the macedonian community what the effects of the slavianism has really done is to destroy our identity.I did remind people that each side of the occupied territory tried to outdo each other with heavy duty propaganda trying to tell macedonians that they are not related to the ancient macedonians & they should take glory out of being slavs & related to the slavs.Nothing could be further from the truth."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Lavce & what have you been doing that makes you so tired???"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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I don't know what Lavce was doing, but it's 4 AM here and I have been drinking since 8 PM. Maybe he was doing something of the sort. X-Dअयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.
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Originally posted by rosetta View PostIndigen,
Your link is from photo-bucket. Which book is that?
Etnogenezata na makedonskiot narod
kontinuitet i tradicija : nekoi aspekti
Lidija Slaveska.
Published 1992 by Matica makedonska in Skopje .
Written in Macedonian.
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