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Ancient Balkan Languages - Proto Slavic Words
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Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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So we have a unique Macedonian word, and there are surely several more, and the best place to find them is when speaking with older Macedonians in the native dialects, as we begin to uncover more we will compile an eventual list.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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How about the words KANDISA and BENDISA, does anybody else here use them, and if so, what do they mean to you?
The word Bendisa is close Bendis, the name of an ancient Thracian goddess of the moon. The ancient Greeks identified her with Artemis.
"Just as in all other respects the Athenians continue to be hospitable to things foreign, so also in their worship of the gods; for they welcomed so many of the foreign rites that they were ridiculed for it by comic writers; and among these were the Thracian and Phrygian rites." --Strabo Geography (1st Century CE), 10.3.18.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostHow about the words KANDISA and BENDISA, does anybody else here use them, and if so, what do they mean to you?
Kandisa > to prepare one self for work after long thought or avoiding some task for example.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostHow about the words KANDISA and BENDISA, does anybody else here use them, and if so, what do they mean to you?
Bendisa mi se forumot.
Kandisav edna kola.Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
- Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902
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Originally posted by makedonin View PostBendisa > to like somebody, to be attracted to someone.
That is how I know it.
I should add that in my "household katharevousa experiment" I have almost banished "aresa/aresfam" because I believe it has Greek connections. I have since discovered Bulgarians also use this word. And accept that Macedonian can possibly include ONE Greek loanword.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostWould you agree it also means something as well?
That is how I know it.
Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
I should add that in my "household katharevousa experiment" I have almost banished "aresa/aresfam" because I believe it has Greek connections. I have since discovered Bulgarians also use this word. And accept that Macedonian can possibly include ONE Greek loanword.
Bulgarians use the word Hora> people, Narod. It comes from Greek Χωρα > state which only renders how the Bulgarians percieve their Nation. State equals People and vice versa.
With out State no People in other words.Last edited by makedonin; 02-18-2009, 05:28 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Good observation Makedonin.
Risto, this is how I would use Bendisa, and it would be more for an object rather than a person:
Mi se bendisa kolata
Nogu e bendisvam kukyata
or for a person,
Ti se bendisa chupeto?
Macedonians use Graf or Grah (depending on the dialect) coming from Grasha(k), which is not a loanword. However, Serbs use Pasulj for the same food, which seems to be a loan from the Greek Fasoulia, unless it is ultimately a Latin word, not sure.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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You are welcome SoM.
Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostHowever, Serbs use Pasulj for the same food, which seems to be a loan from the Greek Fasoulia, unless it is ultimately a Latin word, not sure.Last edited by makedonin; 02-18-2009, 04:34 AM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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On google Translate, 'beans' in Slovenian is Fizhol, in Polish it is Fasola, in Slovak it is Fazula, in Ukrainian it is Kvasolya, in Russian it is Fasol, in Bulgarian it is Fasul, but in Serbian and Croatian it is Grah. Interesting, this points to a Slavic origin.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostMacedonians use Graf or Grah (depending on the dialect) coming from Grasha(k), which is not a loanword. However, Serbs use Pasulj for the same food, which seems to be a loan from the Greek Fasoulia, unless it is ultimately a Latin word, not sure.
And it certainly does.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostAjde be ... it is "bop".
And it certainly does.
look up here, I ain't sure about the accuracy but anyways:
Some more on it:
Last edited by makedonin; 02-18-2009, 03:37 PM.To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostOn google Translate, 'beans' in Slovenian is Fizhol, in Polish it is Fasola, in Slovak it is Fazula, in Ukrainian it is Kvasolya, in Russian it is Fasol, in Bulgarian it is Fasul, but in Serbian and Croatian it is Grah. Interesting, this points to a Slavic origin.Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
- Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902
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