you should know which gods & words plenty of examples abound.Pretending & acting dumb is not going to protect you.You know about the names how the ending is ous where you helenised the names.Names which you take for granted are not really greek.
Possible Etymology of Alexander
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GOTSE DELCEV
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Poseidon
Aphrodite
Pelasgians
Athena
Smyrna
Semele
Silenus
Some believe it is related to the Thracian words zilai, zeila, zelas (= wine), or to a hypothetical (not real) early Thracian word Silfanos that would be related to the Latin Silvanus, Silva (=forest). Lastly, it has been related to the words silos, sillos, sillea (hair), anasillos (Satyre hairstyle) which would suggest that Silenus means hairy
Zagreus
Chantraine has suggested it comes from di-agreus (=perfect hunter)Last edited by Sweet Sixteen; 03-15-2014, 04:58 PM.
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Originally posted by Toska View Postor what about just Silen = Strong,Powerful. Direct Macedonian translation
In short, you should study YOUR language; which I don’t see you doing (at least in this forum).
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Here is a website also mentioning the God of Light Xandos, not Xanthus.
And my point about the Thracian Pulpudeva is that the Thracian language, which was more related to ancient Macedonian than ancient Greek was, translated Phillippos as -Pulpu. This to me indicated that different people translated names in different ways. So Phillip's name, however it may have been spoken by Macedonians, may have been in an all-together different form than Phillippos. And it is well-known that the ancient Macedonians did not possess the letter f. This can be founds here: http://books.google.com/books?id=Apz...0greek&f=false
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Originally posted by Sweet Sixteen View PostIf you have such a word you should trace it's history through your recent Bulgarian, Serbian or even Russian and Polish literature of the previous four or five centuries and gradually go back until the texts of Old Church Slavonic, Old (West and East) Slavic etc and find if it's still there and in which form. You just have to find its' earliest appearance in the middle Ages. I don’t know what next, but at least you may exclude some possibilities.
In short, you should study YOUR language; which I don’t see you doing (at least in this forum).
Liberal Arts at UT offers over 40 majors and many top-ranked graduate programs in the social sciences and humanities taught by 750 faculty.
In short, people shouldn't throw stones if they live in glass houses.
Further, please don't forget where the Bulgars learned their current language. Many people seem to forget.
Any Macedonian should be able to understand the Old Macedonian. Try that with English of 1000 years ago. Or Greek prior to the great experiment of the 1800's.
Thanks.Risto the Great
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"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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Originally posted by Sweet Sixteen View PostPoseidon
Aphrodite
Pelasgians
Athena
Smyrna
Semele
Silenus
Some believe it is related to the Thracian words zilai, zeila, zelas (= wine), or to a hypothetical (not real) early Thracian word Silfanos that would be related to the Latin Silvanus, Silva (=forest). Lastly, it has been related to the words silos, sillos, sillea (hair), anasillos (Satyre hairstyle) which would suggest that Silenus means hairy
Zagreus
Chantraine has suggested it comes from di-agreus (=perfect hunter)
Your reliance on Wikipedia as an actual source of information is troubling to say that least.
And if you read them, you´d see how many attest to the fact that the origins remains unclear.
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how can you explainyour greek book written by your minister for northern Greece,4000 years of greek history when you have only been on the greek peninsula for 3k approximately.You had no language or alphabet.You adopted the phonecian alphabet 3 centuries after the liniar aA scripts,&liniar B scripts.So you started to Hellenise everything even to the point that your neighbour Macedonia was derived from greek stock.You believed in your greek lies Myths made up stories.None of it is true for Macedonians and greeks weren't a related race of people."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Originally posted by Chakalarov View PostSS:
Here is a website also mentioning the God of Light Xandos, not Xanthus.
http://myweb.unomaha.edu/~mreames/Alexander/basics.html
That brings as to a different (but again) Greek etymology for Alexander ranging from Ηλιόξανθος (Helioxanthos) to Αλιόξανδος (Alioxandos), meaning Yellow Sun.
Originally posted by Chakalarov View PostAnd my point about the Thracian Pulpudeva is that the Thracian language, which was more related to ancient Macedonian than ancient Greek was, translated Phillippos as -Pulpu. This to me indicated that different people translated names in different ways. So Phillip's name, however it may have been spoken by Macedonians, may have been in an all-together different form than Phillippos. And it is well-known that the ancient Macedonians did not possess the letter f. This can be founds here: http://books.google.com/books?id=Apz...0greek&f=false
These are considered Aeolic influences and bring Macedonian dialect closer to Homer’s language. On the contrary, Attic dialect is closer to Ionian.
These effects are not the rule. E.g. Xanthos (with a Θ) appears in famous Macedonian headstone from Pella (around 420-400 BC). "Xanthos son of Demetrios and Amadika"
Originally posted by Risto the Great View Postpower or virtue here:
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/l.../ocsol-BF.html
Russian/Bulgarian/Serbian: силен, Slovenian: Silen (=strong, forceful)
Czech/ Slovakian/ Polish: silny (=strong)
Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostIn short, people shouldn't throw stones if they live in glass houses.
Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostFurther, please don't forget where the Bulgars learned their current language. Many people seem to forget.
Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostAny Macedonian should be able to understand the Old Macedonian. Try that with English of 1000 years ago. Or Greek prior to the great experiment of the 1800's.
Greek language hasn’t changed much in the last 1000 years. Changes in antiquity were faster and broader.
Originally posted by Chakalarov View PostYour reliance on Wikipedia as an actual source of information is troubling to say that least.
And if you read them, you´d see how many attest to the fact that the origins remains unclear.
I can’t say the same about the link you provided. After searching and searching I couldn’t find the author/compiler of these university notes or any references. I have to admit it was more entertaining than scientific and I mean this the good way. I hope these notes will be attractive for American students.
Some of the pages (e.g. the one on the controversies of Vergina tombs) may interest the members of the forum. So here it is:
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Originally posted by Sweet Sixteen View PostA superficial search shows:
Russian/Bulgarian/Serbian: силен, Slovenian: Silen (=strong, forceful)
Czech/ Slovakian/ Polish: silny (=strong)
It defies logic.
Ease up on the superficiality mate.
What’s that supposed to mean?
I don't buy that.
It always amuses me when Old Macedonian is described as Old Bulgarian. How ridiculous. If they want to call it New Bulgarian I am happy to chat. Because that is pretty much what it became for the Bulgars. Give it your best shot champ.
Are you sarcastic by any chance? I thought, based on previous discussions, that Old Church Slavonic is not easily intelligible by you. I also sensed limited interest in investigating your recent linguistic history. But, if I'm wrong, I take it back.
Are your spider senses tingling on a number of issues? I gave you a link in my preceding post. I read a number of the texts on that link. It was quite easy to understand well over 70% of it. I think it is remarkable that this is the case with a language documented over 1000 years ago. Don't you?
Greek language hasn’t changed much in the last 1000 years. Changes in antiquity were faster and broader.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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so what language is the Serbian language its Macedonian."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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thats just logical, but im saying from a todays viewpoint, if you had no recollection of the past, you would see how the Macedonian language has morphed maybe 5% in 1300 years and how outsiders would could perceive the language as Serbian as many times our history has been muffled by western historians that came to balkans in 1800s and thought they saw Bulgarians or Serbians because of this reason, but as for the bible written for the slavic speakers of the Balkans and Eastern Europe, do you think it was intellectual by the other speakers.
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostI never quite realised how similar modern Macedonian and medieval Macedonian actually were. After looking through this I'm quite impressed.
It is remarkable, no doubt!
And if it was so well documented then, why would it be so difficult to believe the language thrived for hundreds of years in the region prior to that time.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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