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  • Liberator of Makedonija
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1597

    Macedonian and Albanian cooperation

    Starting this thread to investigate historical cases of co-operation and solidarity between the Macedonian and Albanian movements.
    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.
  • Liberator of Makedonija
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 1597

    #2
    The Central National Committee for the Autonomy of Macedonia and Albania was said to have been formed in London and involved Dimitrija Čupovski.
    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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    • Liberator of Makedonija
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 1597

      #3
      During the Ohrid-Debar Uprising in 1913, the rebels received support from the recently-formed Albanian government and the uprising included both local Macedonians and Albanians of the western regions of Macedonia.
      I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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      • Liberator of Makedonija
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 1597

        #4
        The Albano-Macedonia magazine, date of publication unsure. Supposedly the text refers to a pledge between Macedonian and Albanian revolutionaries to assist eachother but the quality is too poor to read.

        I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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        • Amphipolis
          Banned
          • Aug 2014
          • 1328

          #5
          This is google translation from Bulgarian

          Albano-Macedonia (in Greek : Albanian-Macedonia ) or Albano-Macedonian is a daily newspaper published in Bucharest in 1893-1894 in 2 identical versions in Romanian and Greek.

          The newspaper was published by Steflu al-Damchiu Makedon and published unsigned texts. Only one copy was kept on January 25, 1894, the text of which was taken for the first edition. The logo is "Brotherhood, Freedom", symbolizing solidarity between Albanians and Aromanians . The newspaper is about liberation and independence in Albania. The main idea of ​​the newspaper is the liberation of Albanians and Vlachs. The newspaper is confiscated.

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          • Liberator of Makedonija
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 1597

            #6
            Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
            This is google translation from Bulgarian

            Albano-Macedonia (in Greek : Albanian-Macedonia ) or Albano-Macedonian is a daily newspaper published in Bucharest in 1893-1894 in 2 identical versions in Romanian and Greek.

            The newspaper was published by Steflu al-Damchiu Makedon and published unsigned texts. Only one copy was kept on January 25, 1894, the text of which was taken for the first edition. The logo is "Brotherhood, Freedom", symbolizing solidarity between Albanians and Aromanians . The newspaper is about liberation and independence in Albania. The main idea of ​​the newspaper is the liberation of Albanians and Vlachs. The newspaper is confiscated.
            And what was the source you translated it from?
            I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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            • Carlin
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 3332

              #8
              It ultimately seems to come from and is cited from here:


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              • Liberator of Makedonija
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 1597

                #9
                Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
                It ultimately seems to come from and is cited from here:


                Translation?
                I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                • Carlin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3332

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
                  Translation?
                  More or less the same as google translation from Bulgarian, which Amphipolis provided.


                  tchaiku / Albo, can you please provide a brief translation summary of the following (it's in Albanian):
                  Last edited by Carlin; 09-16-2018, 04:42 PM.

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                  • Liberator of Makedonija
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 1597

                    #11
                    The Albanian-Macedonian Revolutionary League was formed in 1887, with Isaija Mažovski as a member.
                    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                    • Carlin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 3332

                      #12
                      There appears to be a documentary on this topic.

                      Here is part 1, THE COOPERATION OF MACEDONIANS AND ALBANIANS FROM 1850 TO 1940:


                      And here is part 2:
                      Соработката на Македонците и Албанците од 1850 до 1940 година - Епизода 02Sorabotkata na Makedoncite i Albancite od 1850 do 1940 godina - Epizoda 02


                      It's in Macedonian, no English subtitles. I just came across this so I haven't had the opportunity to watch it yet.
                      Last edited by Carlin; 07-11-2020, 07:50 AM.

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                      • Liberator of Makedonija
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 1597

                        #13
                        Good find Carlin
                        I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                        • Soldier of Macedon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13675

                          #14
                          This is an interesting topic, but I wouldn't expect to find too many meaningful examples, because even if there were some Albanians who (opportunistically or otherwise) collaborated with Macedonian freedom-fighters during the late Ottoman era, they are but an anecdote when compared to the thousands of Albanian Muslims who supported the Ottoman oppression of Macedonian Christians. While they were able to maintain their privileged positions over the tormented Macedonian villages, they were happy to see the perpetuation of that horrific system. When they saw the Ottoman Empire start to crumble, some of them began to act against the Porte, but many of them remained faithful to the centuries-old occupation until the end.
                          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                          • Karposh
                            Member
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 863

                            #15
                            Whatever token gestures there may have been on their part, they pale in comparison to what their kin, the opportunistic Bashibazouk, did to Macedonian non-combatants, after the Turkish army had just destroyed a Christian village or town.

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