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[Bratot]

Of course he(Nikodim) know exactly what Jankovska ment in her post and of course he knows that Tito gave Solun to the Greeks by sabotaging Macedonian brigates who were preparing to attack and take Solun back in Macedonian hands.

Macedonian partisants in 2 WW were fully aware of the occupied parts by Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia and the war was their chance to fight not only for a freedom but to unify the whole Macedonian land.

I don't think there is a sane reason why we should bother with him since it's obvious that he is trying to provoke and waste our time in this discussion.

[Bratot]

So if my English is correct, when you say to take something back, means you used to have this in your possession or control. And since I'm not very well versed in Macedonian history I was wondering when did we have control of Solun prior to WWII?

It's not about administrative control but it's a mater of cultural, historical and ethnical belonginess to Macedonian people.

VMRO was not created in Athens, nor Sofia, nor Belgrade, nor Tirana, but in the very one Macedonian cultural capital - Solun!

Those things are making the national awareness which none of our neighbouring countries manage in changing that.

If I call on your advanced logic, I should ask the same question...before 1912... Greece...#($_@_#?

[NikodimMKD]

Of course he(Nikodim) know exactly what Jankovska ment in her post and of course he knows that Tito gave Solun to the Greeks by sabotaging Macedonian brigates who were preparing to attack and take Solun back in Macedonian hands.

Macedonian partisants in 2 WW were fully aware of the occupied parts by Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia and the war was their chance to fight not only for a freedom but to unify the whole Macedonian land.

I don't think there is a sane reason why we should bother with him since it's obvious that he is trying to provoke and waste our time in this discussion.

Well, in that case what is stopping us now from taking back Solun since Tito is dead and our leader is Nikola Gruevski?

[Bratot]

Current conditions ;-) but if I take a look in the close future.... I see the red-yellow flag with the sun on the white tower.

[Risto the Great]

Well, in that case what is stopping us now from taking back Solun since Tito is dead and our leader is Nikola Gruevski?

Seriously, don't you know what is stopping Macedonians?

Why do you persist in trying to look like a dumb Macedonian. Can't you see the Macedonians here have an intellect that you can only dream of?

[Daskalot]

Come take a ride in Tito´s time Machine – Part 1 – Introduction

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/114490

Come take a ride in Tito´s time Machine – Part 1 – Introduction

Risto Stefov

August 16, 2009


Almost every e-mail I have received from Greeks in the last half a dozen years or so mentions the name "Tito" as the "creator" of the Macedonian ethnic identity. "You are not Macedonians, you are Slavs and you came to the Balkans in the 6th century AD" seems to be the standard Greek definition of a Modern Macedonian. But if we are all Slavs and came to the Balkans in the 6th century AD then how did we become Macedonians? Well the Greeks have an answer for that too. They say "Tito created the Macedonian ethnic identity".

Greeks, it seems, feel very uncomfortable when a question pops up for which they have no ready made answers but on the question of "How did the Macedonians become Macedonians?" they are pretty sure Tito created them.

Well, if we "must" believe that "Tito" created the Macedonians then we must also believe that Tito possessed a "Time Machine" because in this series of articles we will show you that the Macedonians existed way before Tito´s time.

"Greek propagandists and Greek government officials have brainwashed their Greek citizens into believing that Josip Broz Tito, the Yugoslav dictator, along with the Communists, ´invented´ the Macedonians. The Bulgarians too, like the Greeks, are in denial when it comes to the existence of a Macedonian nation." (TrueMacedonian)

TrueMacedonian knows Tito´s secret because he along with Marty and Doc accompanied Tito on his voyages back in time watching Tito "create" these Macedonians. But unbeknownst to them I too accompanied Tito, Marty, Doc and TrueMacedonian watching things unfold as I hid in the back seat of the Delorean, recording events as they unfolded.

So why don´t we all take a trip back in time and let´s see exactly when and where Tito landed and how he "invented" these Macedonians.

One puzzling question however. "What identity were these people before Tito ´made´ them into Macedonians"? I guess we will have to turn to the Greeks for that answer!

The best trick Tito ever pulled was to assemble his best scientists to create his time machine. Upon being pushed to 88 miles per hour his time machine broke the time barrier and disappeared back into the future. Tito´s first trip was to 1985 where he acquired a Yugo engine for his Delorian. From then on he traveled under his own power and went wherever he wanted just by setting the time machine´s time dial. I snuck-up and boarded the Delorian while it was briefly visiting my neck of the woods on January 1st, 2000. My first ride was to 1907 when Tito went to Pennsylvania to do some dirty deeds. (Story inspired by TrueMacedonian)

After landing in Pennsylvania Tito took a trip to the Statistics office and ordered the statistician to enter the following;

"Iron and Steel Supplement – Labor…Macedonians…17" ("Annual Report of the Secretary of Internal Affairs of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", Part III, Industrial Statistics, Vol. XXXV, 1907, page 73)

By the way registered on page 73 you will also find Greeks…159 and Slavish…3,408.

"Labor Supplements – Sole and Harness Leather…Macedonians…43" ("Annual Report of the Secretary of Internal Affairs of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", Part III, Industrial Statistics, Vol. XXXV, 1907, page 191)

Registered on page 191 you will also find Greeks…20 and Slavonians…285.

"Labor Supplements – Tanning Extracts…Macedonians…3" ("Annual Report of the Secretary of Internal Affairs of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania", Part III, Industrial Statistics, Vol. XXXV, 1907, page 247)

For more details on the above and for more of Tito´s dirty deeds please click on the following link:

http://www.maknews.com/forum/macedonian-history/come-take-a-ride-on-tito-s-time-machine-t12823.html

If you visited the link above you would have seen Tito´s best work, convincing the statistics office in 1907 to record 17 Macedonians working with iron and steel, 43 Macedonians working with sole and harness leather and 3 Macedonians working with tanning extracts. It was quite an accomplishment for Tito to create 63 Macedonians just like that!

After visiting Pennsylvania, Tito decided to jump back to the 19th century to add some Macedonians in an English-Arabic dictionary. He knocked off a few shots of rakia for courage and then bribed the dictionary author with some more rakia. When the author was drunk and passed out Tito ordered TrueMacedonian to modify the dictionary as follows:

"Saklabah, The Sclavonians, supposed by the Arabians to be descended from Seclab, a son of Japhet. Under this name, however, the Mahometans comprehend often the Servians, Bulgarians, Moesians, Thracians, Albanians, Macedonians and the northern parts of Greece." ("An English Arabic Dictionary" by Josiph Catafago, 1858, page 131)

Not satisfied with modifying just some statistics and one definition in a dictionary, Tito figured it was time to influence some newspapers so he set the Delorian time dial to the year 1897. February 6th, 1897 to be exact. Here Tito influenced the New York Times to write the following:



"Mr. Gladstone and the Balkan Confederation. – The Byron Society, which is actively engaged in disseminating appeals in Greece and Bulgaria to help the cause of the Macedonians, has communicated to its agents a letter from Mr. Gladstone for distribution in the vernacular in South-Eastern Europe. The Society aims at inducing the Greek, Servian and Bulgarian governments to come to an early agreement in reference to the Macedonian question. The letter is as follows: - ´Hawarden Castle Jan. 19, 1897. Dear, Sir, the hopelessness of the Turkish Government should make me witness with delight its being swept out of the countries which it tortures. Next to the Ottoman Government nothing can be more deplorable and blameworthy than jalousies between Greek and Slav and plans by the states already existing for appropriating other territory. Why not Macedonia for the Macedonians as well as Bulgaria for the Bulgarians and Servia for the Servians? And if they are small and weak, let them bind themselves together for defense, so that they may not be scattered by others, either great or small, which would probably be the effect of their quarreling among themselves. Your very faithful, W. E. Gladstone.´" ("New York Times", February 6th, 1897).

Bravo Tito, I don´t know exactly how you did it but you convinced a British Prime Minister to say "Macedonia for the Macedonians" which became a rallying cry for the Macedonians before your time!

Still not satisfied that enough was done, Tito set the Delorian time dial to August 11, 1900. Here he convinced a reader to write the following to the New York Times Editor;

"Christians in Turkey

To the Editor of the New York Times:

The writer read with much interest a letter in THE TIMES of to-day relating to the Macedonian disturbances. It has been said that ´The worst Christian Government is better than the best Muslim Government´, but Mr. Burman, the writer of the letter in question, apparently thinks Turkish rule good enough in its way or feels that international justice demands that Turkey in Europe be preserved at any price. He speaks of ´acts of retribution on the part of their (the Macedonians´) Turkish masters.´ As the Turks have long referred to the Christians in their dominions as ´dogs´ the term is perhaps a very apt one.

K. C. Bataille, Orange N. J., August 11, 1900."

By now everyone was getting a little tired and Tito decided that they should return back to the future and retire for the day. "We will do this again tomorrow" Tito told the others, "be here promptly at 8 AM". Just as everyone was busy unpacking their things, I slipped into the trunk of the Delorian through the hidden passage and waited for things to get quiet. When we got back to our time and everyone had left, I opened the Delorian´s trunk through the secret latch inside and I too retired for the day.

Oh, I forgot to tell you. When everyone was busy keeping the "dictionary guy" company and drinking rakia, I borrowed the Delorian for a brief while and took a trip to London to January 12, 1814 where I convinced Reverend Hughes to write the following;

"The Serai stands in an open space, near the south-east corner of the Castron: it is a vast irregular pile of buildings… The great hall of this building was crowded with attendants of every variety in costumes, from red-shawled Macedonians and turbaned Osmanli, to the Albanian with his shaggy white capote, and the Greek archon in robes of ermine and enormous calpac." ("Travels in Sicily Greece and Albania" by Rev. Thos. Smart Hughes, 1820, page 472).

By setting the return time dial to seconds after I left for London, I was able to spend considerable time in London without Tito discovering his Delorian was missing. I just hope he doesn´t keep track of the "time mileage".

And now I will leave you with this;

"Since the Christian era, as we have said, a successive downpour of foreigners from the north into Greece has ensued. In the sixth century came the Avars and the Slavs, bringing death and disaster. A more potent and lasting influence upon the country was probably produced by the slower and more peaceful infiltration of the Slavs into Thessaly and Epirus from the end of the seventh century onward. A result of this is that Slavic place-names to-day occur all over the Peloponnesus in the open country where settlements could readily be made. The most important immigration of all is probably that of the Albanians, who, from the thirteenth century until the advent of the Turks, incessantly overran the land." ("The Races of Europe A Sociological Study", by William Z. Ripley, Ph.D., 1910, page 408)

To be continued.

Other articles by Risto Stefov:

http://www.maknews.com/html/articles.html#stefov

http://www.americanchronicle.com/authors/view/3446

Many thanks to TrueMacedonian from http://www.maknews.com/forum for his contribution to this article.

You can contact the author at rstefov@hotmail.com

[Dimko-piperkata]

i assume that this new series will once get a place in the hall of fame of our macedonian freedom fight against the greek neofascism, bravo RTG

[Risto the Great]

Risto Stefov is indeed another RTG!

[Soldier of Macedon]

Lol, just noticed that.

Great compilation by the way RtG .

[George S.]

I have to agree fully with you sooner or later the macedonian spirit will triumph & & lies etc will be revealed.How could one country belong to 4 other countries.What right did greece have to illegally occupy macedonian territory in 1912.Territory it had never held & it wanted more territory as it wasn't happy with 51%.I've seen turks on the net have been begging us macedonians to check out their archives as they hold so much info beneficial to macedonia.Someone needs to consolidate it & present it to the world.The Greeks have no ligitimate right to aegean macedonia at alll.The treaty of bucharest is all over & property etc rights must be restored to the macedonian people!.
George S.

[George S.]

Seriously are we in a position to advocate war??I think not.I'm with you Risto well said.
I can see nikodim fighting on his own!

George S.

[Risto the Great]

I am glad you are with me George S.
I have banned you for 7 days to catch up on some reading. Feel free to join us with a bit more intellect in 7 days time.

[Soldier of Macedon]

All the best George, hope you make it through this patch.

[BulgarMAK]

I knew you come with that photo. You said it is from WWI while some say it is from 1912 (WWI -28 July 1914 – 11 November 1918 ).



How come?

I made an unconscious technical mistake and wrote WW1 instead BW1.

By the way, where is the Bulgarian Uniform you claim he is wearing!? You are mixing stuff dude. Get your fact straight before bubbling around some propaganda. The Uniform you mention is from another time period on another Photo.

I'm not mixing anything. He wears exactly the white Bulgarian uniform of the Macedonian-Adrianopolitan voluntary troops(12 divisions from Macedonia and 2 from Thrace). Because they weren't a regular army and were recruited when all preparations were over. Initially there were only several hundred uniforms for those with higher rank and obviously Sandaski was among them. The rest had green uniforms but received them not until 1913.
Here is what I found about the uniforms of the Macedonian-Adrianopolitan volunteers.

В първите дни след създаването па опълченските дружини силно се чувства недостиг от униформено облекло. Щабът на опълчението успява с огромни усилия да осигури едва 400 пелерини и 1000 шинела, с които опълченците потеглят от София в средата на октомври. Поради затрудненията, свързани с набавянето на обмундированието, около половината от доброволците напускат столицата без връхни дрехи, носейки своето лично облекло. Използваната първоначално форма на облеклото е като тази на българската пехота. Щабът на опълчението разпорежда всички калпаци да бъдат със зелени дъна и с метална емблема, изобразяваща български лъв, който държи националното знаме, и инициалите на Македоно-одринското опълчение — МОО. По-късно се правят и пагони от зелено сукно, а върху новите опълченски униформи се пришиват зелени кантове. В този си вид униформата на Македоно-одринското опълчение е утвърдена със заповед на Действащата армия №147 от 11 март 1913 година.

Yeah right, you know that this is from the WWI and is 100% original. How was it, you have an PDF, right. Take a word of Bulgar.

In comment #3 Adrianopole was mentioned which proves that I meant BW1.

Here is what I see on the above photo:

-- The legs of the Jane and the Bulgarian soldier from the right side (the left of Jane) have no shadows. That's why the (They are simply levitating in the air. It is common knowledge that the shadows of person and items are hard to transfer when doing this stuff by graphic manipulation. If they are coming from north, the sun is shining from east or maybe north-east. That's why their shadows are not long and ahead of them but have circle-shaped forms. Sandanski's shadow is obvious and roughly corresponds with the red circle.

-- You can zoom in to the picture and see the difference between the legs of the left side soldier (right of Jane) with Janes. And what exactly bothers you about their legs? Clarify?!?

-- Everybody are staring into the camera, only Jane is staring somewhere else. It is common when Posing, that everybody is looking in to the camera. Everybody? Really? Shall I point one by one the men who are not looking in to the camera? Starting from the solider in right(Yane's left) and finishing with guys whose eyes are in different direction or even at the ground?

-- The line of displacement of the people on the photo. Jane and the Bulgarian Soldier on the right side (Janes left) are out of the line. That could be an argument if they were walking but they are standing on one place and posing. Sandanski was already popular enough to be at the foreground.

-- The size of Jane and the soldier are significant smaller than those of the others. Both of them would be more fitting in to the middle. Never been aware that Yane was famous for being a tall man. On the other hand the men in the first raws are usually tall with more representative appearance.

-- The Bulgarian soldier on the left is in motion, while the others are standing still and posing for snapshot. [color=red]He is certainly not in motion because he is holding something in his left hand. It looks like a sabre and its edge is touching the ground.

But even if this photo is real, out of any reason, this does not change the fact that Jane was fighting with Turks too, he did embrace the Young Turk revolution. He was even in Istambul and wear Fess.
So he must be Turk, right? There are photos of Jane and behind him, you see the Turkish flag. What does that mean than?

That means nothing because Yane didn't serve twice in the Turkish army and didn't found a party called People's Federative Partly- Turkish section. Also, he didn't use Turkish, Greek, Serbian language or even his local dialect but the northern(literary) Bulgarian. You can't find a single document by him which is not in north Bulgarian dialect. Do you actually have any authentic source which implies that he didn't have Bulgarian consciousness?

He did accept anybody's help, even the Turkish after 500 years of slavery. It did not matter to him who helps, as log as Macedonians get their freedom.

He stayed remembered by the people as this:

Not indeed. He was ready to accept help from all sides in the name of the common interest and but was ready to accept only two options for liberated Macedonia- divided on ethnic basis and the population considered by him as "his Bulgarian compatriots"(from the interview with the Serbian journalist Branislav Nushich) to join Bulgaria or multinational Macedonian federation with its own constitution and parliament.

Jane Iv. Sandanski "Starikt" "Pirin Tsar"
Born 1874 in vilage Vlahi Melnik district, due to 20 years of fight for freeing the Macedonian slave, was killed on 10 of April 1915 in the district Baba by the Bulgarian evil doing hand.

Go here to see the Photo

I hope that you unintentionally missed a word and misquoted another one because you didn't fully understand the sentence.
Just one small word but it tells so much. Firstly, the source you use is Bulgarian and the exact quotation is as follows:

"...was killed on 10 April 1915 in the district Baba, unfortunately, by the evil doing hand of Bulgarians.

You didn't say that the document you quoted is Bulgarian(one could decide that it's Macedonian and blames the enemy Bulgarians for the murder) and also changed the translation. Translating as: "the Bulgarian evil doing hand" implies the feeling that he wasn't Bulgarian but Bulgarian enemy and therefore the Bulgarians killed him. However, the word "уви"(alas, regrettably, unfortunately) makes the sentence sound very differently. With it the author doesn't sound like blaming the Bulgarians for the murder but expresses his sorrow that Yane was killed exactly by Bulgarian hand.

As for Lenin's censured picture, obviously it was possible to erase somebody/something but what about adding a person to a picture? You need very high proficiency in the photo editing software and even with the present technologies only the professionals can achieve such a good result.

The book can be downloaded from here:

http://zamunda.net/details.php?id=133371&hit=1

[Daskalot]

I hope that you unintentionally missed a word and misquoted another one because you didn't fully understand the sentence.
Just one small word but it tells so much. Firstly, the source you use is Bulgarian and the exact quotation is as follows:

You didn't say that the document you quoted is Bulgarian(one could decide that it's Macedonian and blames the enemy Bulgarians for the murder) and also changed the translation. Translating as: "the Bulgarian evil doing hand" implies the feeling that he wasn't Bulgarian but Bulgarian enemy and therefore the Bulgarians killed him. However, the word "уви"(alas, regrettably, unfortunately) makes the sentence sound very differently. With it the author doesn't sound like blaming the Bulgarians for the murder but expresses his sorrow that Yane was killed exactly by Bulgarian hand.

Here is my reply to another B'lgar like yourself:

The obituary reads;

The legendary warrior

Jane Iv. Sandanski

“Starikt” “Pirin Tsar”*.
Born 1874 in the village of Vlahi in the Melnik district, due to 20 years of fight for freeing the Macedonian slave, was killed on 10 of April 1915 in Pirin, in the district of “Baba”, alas**, by the evil doing hand of the Bulgarians.

*the king of Pirin.

**Definition of the word alas as per TheFreeDictionary:
a·las
interj.
Used to express sorrow, regret, grief, compassion, or apprehension of danger or evil.

Please note the last part of the meaning of alas.

The Macedonians sensed a great danger or evil coming form the Bulgarians whom were spreading their viscous propaganda thru their churches and schools with the aim of destroying Macedonian consciousness and to crush any attempt to form an AUTONOMOUS Macedonian state free from all shackles and chains.

This is what the Macedonians feared.