Racism from Greece and Greeks

[Phoenix]

Now it's infested their sport.


Greek soccer player banned over Nazi salute
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/socce...318-2g9l0.html

Check out the ink on Herr Deutsches Jungvolk, looks like the kids went bananas with black markers...lol.

[Bill77]

Now it's infested their sport.


Greek soccer player banned over Nazi salute

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/greek-soccer-player-banned-over-nazi-salute-20130318-2g9l0.html

[momce]

I, am not some average Joe and know what to look for from "extremist groups" and I will tell you that the first time I had ever heard or seen this "Golden Dawn" was the Victor Friedman Macedonian book presentation.

I, have reviewed that maybe 100 times and something is not right.

Yes I saw that too. Basically it was disgusting bully tactic by Golden Dawn against a very respected scholar. That is the level of those guys.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

I, am not some average Joe and know what to look for from "extremist groups" and I will tell you that the first time I had ever heard or seen this "Golden Dawn" was the Victor Friedman Macedonian book presentation.

I, have reviewed that maybe 100 times and something is not right.

[Epirot]

I, don't waste time with them but to my knowledge no one has ever been killed by these people? If, they're as bad as the GREEK media and church makes them out to be wouldn't you think new groups would be ready to take them on for turf? Sex trade? Drugs? Macedonian Folk Music?

At the very beginning even the Nazis in Germany were thought as tiny group which could not trouble or harass anyone. But we know how they ended up. Even the Golden Down went unnoticed for quite long time. But they rose in power by utilizing the current economic crisis and they are actually the third political force in Greece (mind even the fact that their members have some seats in Greek parliament). During the last month, there were reportedly more than 200 emigrants who got assaulted by Greek nazis.

Golden Dawn proudly claims “60 percent support” among the police force. Not only do officers deliberately ignore criminal complaints and emergency calls by immigrants and activists
http://roarmag.org/2012/10/golden-da...union-silence/

Yet the worst thing is that Golden Down might be in the first stage of its power. There are serious indicators which warn us for their growing potential as long as Greek state is fucked up by the weight of debt repayments:

As the Greek state crumbles under the weight of its debt repayments, Golden Dawn has stepped in to fill the void.
http://roarmag.org/2012/10/golden-da...union-silence/

EU is to be faulted the most. They have showed to much generosity to the rise of right extremism. While Germany has passed a legislation which do not allow the rise of any nazi group, in Greece is quite the opposite.

Here is a video which display the public violence demonstrated by the Golden Down's members:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XLOESazVHL4

What irks the most is that Greek diaspora (which is supposed to be more embodied with democratic ideals) has never condemned the rise of nazism in Greece nor they rise their voice to protect the non-Greeks which are suffering the most. Their forums are still seething with hatred which is most oriented towards Macedonia, Albania and particularly to Turkey. AMAC is the best example of that. One wonders how they spent all of their time in front of computer by using every possible offense towards their neighbours. Even if they are going to talk about Hemingway (though they are so feeble-minded to speak about literature, let alone fine arts), that thread will be scrawled by offenses towards Macedonians and Albanians. Let's see the example of a deranged Diaspora Greek, Andreas Kyropoulos (aka Dr.Evil) which is currently living abroad:

Yiap we too have our gems. I don't know their actual number and/or influence. But note the easyness by which we (and I think that "we" here includes not only us two, but most members of the forum) condemn these Greek nutjobs. It speaks tones about social maturity.

This halfwit talks about social maturity, while nazism and insanity in his own country is at its nadir. How pitiful! Social maturity accompanied with nazism. How fitting!

[momce]

Not sure they target all kinds of groups and are dangerous. Also they are protected by the state. They are definately a problem. Also they have provoked Macedonians in Lerin on various occassions. There are people in greece who are against them but its better for us to deal with golden shower outside of greece.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

I, don't waste time with them but to my knowledge no one has ever been killed by these people? If, they're as bad as the GREEK media and church makes them out to be wouldn't you think new groups would be ready to take them on for turf? Sex trade? Drugs? Macedonian Folk Music?

[momce]

Golden dawn is their true face last thing greece needs is to even exist at all the creation of modern greece was just an attempt to provide a home and centrebase for Phanariot criminals so they could continue their looting policies against Balkan populations we are ipso facto enemies with greece so they were run out of Romania-the greek phanariots-they should be run out of Macedonia and the entire Balkans as a parasitical entity and force and back to their gypsy caravans, used merchant ships and gay parade to paraphrase Cato the Elder I am the opinion they should be entirely destroyed. Homeland war.

[Makedonska_Kafana]

Folks, every country has these types of groups and for the most part they're not nearly as bad as many are led to believe via media (agenda) sources. If, there was indeed serious concerns they could be dealt with very quickly and the last thing Greece needs is more extremists groups to step up to the plate and go head to head - another civil war 46-49

WAR/DEATHS - NEW WORLD ORDER METHOD OF POPULATION CONTROL - LESS IS MORE (FUNDED)

[George S.]

When the golden dawn nazism takes over greece there will be hel to pay..These nazis will stir hate & racism & hurt the minorities.

[momce]

So what is this like the inner grecophone elite getting others to fight and work for them by making them believe they are greekoids? Magic etc?

[momce]

Golden Dawn sounds confused....So how are Albanians and greeks similar since they are also different? Whats the mediating term?

[George S.]

The albanian s were not dorian or dacian as for the greeks they don't know who or what they are.How many different names have they had.Acchaeans,Danians,Roumae (romans).
They just reinvent themselves to suit themselves.I don't think the greeks will secede to a federation for epirot.Greece has got the same problems with turkey/cyprus/macedonia.The unwillingness to compromise they want it their way or none at all.In my view rightly or wrongly the people themselves should rule cyprus or epirot.The mainland should stay out of it.THe mainland has no idea of what really goes on.So leave the people to sort it out amongs't themselves to find some peacefull solution.So the greeks are the biggest hypocrits accusing everyone else under the sun of
irrendist views when it's they to blame for it all.They (the greeks are never satisfied).
Epirot what's the population distribution of greeks to albanians in epirot.??

[Epirot]

Epirot thank you for posting this information. I believe the racist golden dorks today are in denial of who they are.
Epirot can you translate these pages for us?

You're welcome my friend! In the heart of article stands similarity between Greeks and Albanians. Hence the title is very telling: Greeks and Albanians: one people, one race, one homeland (OΈλληνες Αλβανοί: Ένας Λαός, μία Φυλή, μία Πατρίδα). The author who used an Albanian pseudonym (ΦΑΕΘΩΝ) complains of several attempts to downplay the prominent role of Albanians. He urges to re-evaluate the role of Albanians by exposing historical facts.

In spite of several fractions and institutions, our honest opinion has not ignored the price of sacrifices. In the same vain, we regenerate our origin, by dealing with an important issue, by determining our descent and blood. By busting the propaganda of politics and ignorance, we should point to the history in order to find out undeniable similarities between Greeks and Albanians.

To start from the language, we are about to give a couple of comparisons between the language of Arvanites and that of Homer. (The article gives a list of some commonalities between the language of Arvanites and that of Homer…).

(...)Being aware of the value of war and the actions of our heroes, we express a historical justice by honoring their sacrifices regardless their origin. To get a clear idea of Greece, one must not fail to remember the wars of Pyrrhus, Queen Teuta, Demetrius of Pharos, Genthios against Roman Empire. Throughout Byzantine period, Illyrian commanders like Velissarios and Vranas, but even the emperors like Constandine the Great (a Dardanian from Naissus), Anastasios, Julian and Leon Zguros give the proper answer to history. The sturdy warriors who died in battlefields of Peleponnesus, Rumelia and the islands, Epirus and several other regions did their best to help their southern brethren, who were revolted against Ottomans. Therefore, Albanians are rightfully deemed as Dorians of the new Hellenism. Beyond the fanatical attempts to conceal one of the brightest elements of our history, appears the sacrifice of Arvanites during the national revolution of 1821. The sacrifice of Ghika family in Walachia and Moldavia, the courage of Buas, that of Shkurta family, Buzara, Bardhans, Lalas and Souliotes up to the rise of uprising in Messenia on mars of 1821 from Dredhes, numerous warriors who defended the islands of Hydra and Spetzai, outstanding figures like Kokalis, Andrucos, Kacionis, Grindalis, Plaputas, Kacandonis, Mjaulis, Kolokotronis, Bubulina, Karajskaqis, Kunduriotis and Botsaris. All of them distinguished themselves in the wars against Ottomans and they were descendants of Alexander the Great of Balkans, Scanderbeg along with the misunderstood personality of Ali Pasha.

* The author Antonios Androutsopoulos (aka Periandros) is of Albanian origin. He is being sentenced to 21 years imprisonment for the attempted murder of university student Dimitris Kousouris and another two people in 1998, outside the Evelpidon courthouses. The height of irony is that those leftists which were assaulted by Androutsopoulos always courageously defended Albanians in Greece.

[Stojacanec]

The greeks think they are the gods gift to civilisation. reality its only a Myth! Actually they are the panhandlers of Europe.

They keep knocking the Americans, instead they should kiss their arse.

The Americans threw lots of money at Tito to build a Yugoslavia. Tito in reality wanted to go south and reclaim Aegean Macedonia. The Americans said "you don't touch Aegean Macedonia"

I know family friends that were in the Yugoslav army. Like they explained to me, they thought they were going to go and fight the greeks to the south, instead were told to go to Belgrade on other missions.

The modern greek peasants have a lot to be thankful for.