42 of the 81 are ethnic Macedonians, the rest are Albanians, Turks, Serbs, Bosnaks or Gypsy.
Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue
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Macedonian majority there (just).Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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Originally posted by Phoenix View PostI hear Kamenos has resigned...
The 7-strong parliamentary group, which has propped up the government majority of 152 in the 300-member Parlaiment is split.
Defense Minister Panos Kammenos admitted in a press conference following his resignation statement Sunday, that only two other Independent Greeks lawmakers will follow him in voting against the government and the FYROM name deal.
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Whether Greece ratifies the deal or not is irrelevant. It won't prompt any changes from Zaev.
All we can hope for now is that a few things happen.
-The Greeks do not ratify the deal.
-Zaev persists to implement changes despite the Greeks
-That the Bulgarians make significant demands
-Conservatives come into power in Greece and threaten an EU veto
All of these factors should make a perfect storm to spur anger in Macedonia. Hopefully the shear volume of changes overwhelm people, at the very moment that EU entry seems like it is in question yet again. If that doesn't anger people enough to change course, then nothing ever will.
An economic downturn in Europe to take the wind out of everyone's sails would be the cherry on the cake.
Also the upcoming presidential election will have massive importance. Not so much from a policy perspective but from a sentiment perspective. If a SDSM candidates take the presidency, then forget about potential revolt. That would signal that SDSM hasn't really lost any support A solid win for the opposition wouldn't exactly be a repudiation of Zaev but at we can at least believe there is a pulse.Last edited by Gocka; 01-13-2019, 05:12 PM.
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There is no pulse. None.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by maco2envy View PostIs it true that international treaties must be approved by the UN?
The way it was explained to me by Vicsinad is that because the conflict with Greece was originally initiated at the UN, and the current iterations and negotiations mediated by the UN, that is why this agreement requires UN approval. Because this resolution was conducted under the auspices of the UN.
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Originally posted by Gocka View PostNo not in every case.
The way it was explained to me by Vicsinad is that because the conflict with Greece was originally initiated at the UN, and the current iterations and negotiations mediated by the UN, that is why this agreement requires UN approval. Because this resolution was conducted under the auspices of the UN.
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Originally posted by vicsinad View PostYes, and this is essentially what Russia alluded to several months ago, hinting that it has to come the the UN Security Council and that they would veto it.
UN approval and Greek ratification have no bearing on what are the internal matters of Macedonia, changing of the constitution, and such? Does the Prespa agreement have any provisions stipulating on what would happen in the even of UN or Greek rejection?
The internal changes that Macedonia made are unaffected by the UN or Greece correct?
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Originally posted by Gocka View PostAlso Vic correct me if I am wrong:
UN approval and Greek ratification have no bearing on what are the internal matters of Macedonia, changing of the constitution, and such? Does the Prespa agreement have any provisions stipulating on what would happen in the even of UN or Greek rejection?
The internal changes that Macedonia made are unaffected by the UN or Greece correct?
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Originally posted by Rogi View Post....just 80 people, sell out Macedonia, without a complaint, a protest......In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostNot that it makes (or made) much difference but Filip Petrovski and some others did protest in Skopje a number of times in the past several months.
In all seriousness though I am still in utter disbelief that almost no one protested. I think back over the years, we have had several very large protests for much much less. This is probably the point that sticks out the most to me over this entire debacle.
Based on the referendum results you have to assume a significant number of people were opposed to this, where were they all this time, where are they now???
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Originally posted by Gocka View PostBased on the referendum results you have to assume a significant number of people were opposed to this, where were they all this time, where are they now???Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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