Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue
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Originally posted by Pelagonija View PostСтојанче Ангелов: Отсега ќе бидете Македонци кога ќе одите на грчките плажи, а не Скопјани
https://sitel.com.mk/stojanche-angel...hi-ne-skopjaniIf my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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What a sad individual.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Originally posted by Tomche Makedonche View PostNATO would have a vested interest to ensure that the mess remains as a western protectorate and deploy a permanent peace keeping mission and we will end up with another Bosnia situation. From the Greek perspective, sure that will diminish the potential of their imagined northern threat but also risks further polarisation of the remaining Macedonian fracture emerging from the carnage who would likely as a result hold a greater fanatical ideology in respect of their identity then the current apathetical one shared amongst the population now. The result also means that they allow another competitor (greater Albania) to increase their sphere of influence in the region (as opposed to Greece increasing theirs) which will further isolate them in the region due to Albania’s natural alliance with Turkey.
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Originally posted by vicsinad View PostPerhaps that what Macedonians really want deep down - to become like the Kurds, a people without a homeland. Perhaps we just really miss the 1890s through 1940s.
Wait, did I just describe a kind of Stockholm syndrome?, just oppress us, at least we know what to do and how to act then.“There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio
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Originally posted by Tomche Makedonche View PostWell it was a period where people tended to care about something more than just themselves, and oppression did seem to get people’s sense of priorities in order, as opposed to liberation, they really seem to struggle with that, they are rather completely lost in a liberated scenario.
Wait, did I just describe a kind of Stockholm syndrome?, just oppress us, at least we know what to do and how to act then.
I'm a strong believer in people-power and its innate ability to make great things happen but only strong and trusted leadership can harness its potential.
The saying - "a fish rots from the head down" is just as applicable to a state as it is to any organisation, even the family unit is largely at the mercy of the same dynamics.
Sadly, for the sovereignty of the Macedonian state, history has somewhat conspired against it...at another crucial historical junction when we desperately required a Cento, we were handed a Zaev...and so the journey into oblivion is now complete.
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Originally posted by Carlin15 View PostGreek Foreign Ministry issues strongly worded response to Moscow
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The Greek Foreign Ministry has dismissed Moscow’s criticism of the deal to resolve the name dispute between Greece and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) as tantamount to meddling in Greece’s affairs.
“It is clear that there is an ongoing process imposed from outside which is aimed at changing the country’s name in an artificial way with the ultimate goal of forcefully inducting Skopje into NATO. This is taking place in violation of Macedonian law,” the ministry said, adding that President Gjorge Ivanov and the majority of the country’s population were against the agreement.
Moscow plans to refer the issue to the United Nations Security Council.
What is Ivanov doing about this except for making speeches and asking non rhetorical questions?
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Originally posted by Pelagonija View Post
Стојанче Ангелов: Отсега ќе бидете Македонци кога ќе одите на грчките плажи, а не Скопјани
https://sitel.com.mk/stojanche-angel...hi-ne-skopjani
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There is a rumor that the Ecumenical Patriarch purposely named the new Ukrainian Church "Orthodox Church of Ukraine" rather than "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" so that it will follow the same format for the Macedonian Church when it's time to grant autocephaly: "Orthodox Church of North Macedonia".
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostIs that just talk or a rumour mentioned in the media?
Here I would like to mention the last issue with the Church in Ukraine. This gives us hope that even regarding our Church he will fulfil his promise, thus healing one more serious wound on the body of Orthodoxy. Speaking of Ukraine, we should mention that it’s not by accident the Patriarch chose the name “Orthodox Church in Ukraine” instead of “Ukrainian Orthodox Church” which shows that he is fully determined to confront the heresy of ethnophyletism. We hope that all the Local Churches would learn from this and follow his example, because the Local autocephalous Church does not belong to just one nation, but rather to all the Orthodox faithful under its jurisdiction, regardless of the nationality. Unfortunately, we can’t help but see that the SOC stubbornly holds its position that it should have under control all the territories of the former Yugoslavian state, where it used to preach Serbian nationalism instead of Christianity, something which, according to the spiritual laws, would inevitably get back and explode in their face.
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Hi North MacedoniaRisto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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So funny story.
Today I go to check on a job site and my Macedonian guys are listening to Macedonian radio. Just as I walk in I here this
"Hit concert, Zelko Samardzic, Boris Trajkoski Stadium. Transportation organized from everywhere in the country"
I lost it.
"Пту да ви се плукам во народот заебан. Немојте превос да организирате за протести, ама гла ке скршите за да одите на турбо фолк концерти.
ИСКЛУЧЕТЕ ГО РАДИОТО СМЕСТА ИЛИ КЕ ЛЕТНИТ НИЗ ПЕНЏЕРА!"
I kicked a bucket of drywall mud, muttered some curse words, and went to go eat something (I usually eat when I am pissed off).
That commercial ruined my day.
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