Macedonia & Greece: Name Issue

[Risto the Great]

The name of the country is part of Macedonia's national heritage and culture. Perhaps they can keep that as well.

[Tomche Makedonche]

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/North-Macedonia-to-rename-state-funded-bodies-13667280.php

North Macedonia to rename state-funded bodies, keep anthem

SKOPJE, North Macedonia (AP) — Newly renamed North Macedonia's government says 136 state-funded institutions will adjust their names in the next four months under a historic deal the country formerly known as Macedonia struck with neighboring Greece last year.

But the national anthem will remain unchanged, retaining all references to Macedonia, government spokesman Mile Boshnjakovski said Wednesday. He told the Associated Press that it is part of the country's national heritage and culture, and is thus exempt from the deal.

He said the country's state orchestra, TV and news agency will have the word "Macedonian" replaced by "National" in their names. But the Macedonian National Theater won't change, being a cultural institution.

Among the institutions to be renamed is the central bank, which will become the National Bank of the Republic of North Macedonia.

[Soldier of Macedon]

List of INSTITUTIONAL NAME CHANGES published by the Government of North Macedonia

Full List: https://vlada.mk/sites/default/files...makedonija.pdf

Some examples:

Old name: Macedonian Opera and Ballet
New name: National Opera and Ballet

Old name: Museum of Macedonia
New name: Museum of the Republic of North Macedonia

Old name: Macedonian Radio Televsion (MRT)
New name: National Radio Television (NRT)

Old name: Center of Culture "Macedonia" - Gevgelija
New name: Center of Culture - Gevgelija

Old name: Public State Enterprise "Macedonian Forestry"
New name: Public State Enterprise "National Forestry"

I wonder when that maggot will change the name of his own party given that it ends with the word Macedonia. And too bad they changed MRT to NRT, I was looking forward to the appropriately fitting SMRT.

[Risto the Great]

They should have stuck with "constitutional". It's equally vague and useless.

[Tomche Makedonche]

List of INSTITUTIONAL NAME CHANGES published by the Government of North Macedonia

Full List: https://vlada.mk/sites/default/files...makedonija.pdf

Some examples:

Old name: Macedonian Opera and Ballet
New name: National Opera and Ballet

Old name: Museum of Macedonia
New name: Museum of the Republic of North Macedonia

Old name: Macedonian Radio Televsion (MRT)
New name: National Radio Television (NRT)

Old name: Center of Culture "Macedonia" - Gevgelija
New name: Center of Culture - Gevgelija

Old name: Public State Enterprise "Macedonian Forestry"
New name: Public State Enterprise "National Forestry"

Can DPNE acuse SDS of being Nationalists now?

[Niko777]

List of INSTITUTIONAL NAME CHANGES published by the Government of North Macedonia

Full List: https://vlada.mk/sites/default/files...makedonija.pdf

Some examples:

Old name: Macedonian Opera and Ballet
New name: National Opera and Ballet

Old name: Museum of Macedonia
New name: Museum of the Republic of North Macedonia

Old name: Macedonian Radio Televsion (MRT)
New name: National Radio Television (NRT)

Old name: Center of Culture "Macedonia" - Gevgelija
New name: Center of Culture - Gevgelija

Old name: Public State Enterprise "Macedonian Forestry"
New name: Public State Enterprise "National Forestry"

[Niko777]

New sign installed between Aegean Macedonia and Thessaly

[Big Bad Sven]

Hellenic Air Force Protects North Macedonia’s Airspace

URL:

http://thegreekobserver.com/politics/article/57587/hellenic-air-force-protects-north-macedonias-airspace/

The Hellenic Air Force will assume the supervision and protection of North Macedonian airspace. The proposal has been made by the Greek Defence Minister Evangelos Apostolakis to his North Macedonian counterpart Radmila Sekerinska. This development came into public spotlight after the Minister Sekerinska’s recent interview at the Third Channel of the Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation (ERT-3).

Greece has already assumed the protection of Albania’s and Montenegro’s airspace. The North Macedonian Minister claimed that contrary to previous governments in Skopje, the present looks forward into greater cooperation with the Greek defence authorities and the most recent development pinpoints towards this direction. Minister Sekerinska also dismissed allegations of rising Turkish influence within the neighbour’s armed forces given that the June 2018 Prespes Agreement explicitly prohibits this development from taking place.

In his recent interview at the Greek press, Defence Minister Apostolakis confirmed Athens’ intentions to assume the reorganisation and modernisation of the neighbour’s armed forces. The Greek Defence Minister underscored that the Prespes Agreement and North Macedonia’s accession to NATO allow Greece to deepen cooperation ties with the neighbouring state’s armed forces and defence industry, on the basis of reciprocity. The Greek Minister concluded his statement arguing that cooperation schemes such as the one established with the northern neighbour facilitates our country’s ambition to become a pillar of security in the Balkans and broader Eastern Mediterranean region.

For a financially unstable and backwards shit hole, Greece has done very well for it self. It has puppet states in cyprus, northern macedonia, albania - and has a strong ally serbia in the region.

Very different to Northern Macedonia which has given away everything to its neighbours in blind faith to join EU.

Basically Northern Macedonia is the whore of the balkans and the laughing stock of the world.

Ironic Greece has pretty much invaded and conqured Northern Macedonia without firing a single bullet. Greece controls northern macedonias airspace, its media and history books, its politicians - while the mindless NPCs (non playable characters) from Northern Macedonia continue to rush to greece every summer for holiday and fantasize of owning a holiday house in greece

[Carlin]

Hellenic Air Force Protects North Macedonia’s Airspace

URL:

http://thegreekobserver.com/politics/article/57587/hellenic-air-force-protects-north-macedonias-airspace/

The Hellenic Air Force will assume the supervision and protection of North Macedonian airspace. The proposal has been made by the Greek Defence Minister Evangelos Apostolakis to his North Macedonian counterpart Radmila Sekerinska. This development came into public spotlight after the Minister Sekerinska’s recent interview at the Third Channel of the Hellenic Broadcasting Corporation (ERT-3).

Greece has already assumed the protection of Albania’s and Montenegro’s airspace. The North Macedonian Minister claimed that contrary to previous governments in Skopje, the present looks forward into greater cooperation with the Greek defence authorities and the most recent development pinpoints towards this direction. Minister Sekerinska also dismissed allegations of rising Turkish influence within the neighbour’s armed forces given that the June 2018 Prespes Agreement explicitly prohibits this development from taking place.

In his recent interview at the Greek press, Defence Minister Apostolakis confirmed Athens’ intentions to assume the reorganisation and modernisation of the neighbour’s armed forces. The Greek Defence Minister underscored that the Prespes Agreement and North Macedonia’s accession to NATO allow Greece to deepen cooperation ties with the neighbouring state’s armed forces and defence industry, on the basis of reciprocity. The Greek Minister concluded his statement arguing that cooperation schemes such as the one established with the northern neighbour facilitates our country’s ambition to become a pillar of security in the Balkans and broader Eastern Mediterranean region.

[Vangelovski]

Watch Zaev coach Angusev on the new name. Poor bastard is confused. They can probably drop the whole "Republika" bit now. That was part of the secret plan to demonstrate how smart we are by distinguishing between the Republic of Macedonia and the three Greek provinces of Macedonia.

https://english.republika.mk/news/macedonia/angjushev-calls-the-country-the-republic-of-macedonia-zaev-corrects-him-and-his-face-flushes-with-laughter/?fbclid=IwAR0b6ijKoNcoNiTXFkZ8pfVEDRj6WrTErm5isSllKimGhJKwO78UmMIWX_M

[JPMKD]

Yet another outburst of hate by Kammenos.

Kammenos: No threat from North Macedonia, it’s ‘a 20-minute job’ if tanks pass through

URL:

http://www.ekathimerini.com/237927/article/ekathimerini/news/kammenos-no-threat-from-north-macedonia-its-a-20-minute-job-if-tanks-pass-through

Former defence minister Panos Kammenos lambasted the Prespes accord in a new television interview late Wednesday night, suggesting Greece could take over the small country in 20 minutes.

“We do not feel any threat. Skopje is a 20-minute job. If a troop of tanks decided to cross the border, it will reach the other side of Skopje. It will reach Serbia,” he was quoted as telling Greek TV channel TRT.

How many minutes does it take for Turkey to invade Greece?

Before the name change they were scared Macedonia was going to take over all of northern Greece. The lying little C grade actors they are.

Exactly what I thought when reading this. Almost three decades of lying to the world that they’re concerned Macedonia has territorial aspirations toward “their” northern region and now this. Fucking vultures.

Yeah you and RTG said it, and I too thought exactly the same thing when I read the article.

They have almost spent 3 decades playing the victim and generating artificial fear mongering that Macedonia will one day have territorial aspirations on Aegean Macedonia. Its no secret Macedonia cant even defend itself, let alone invade another country.

Would love to see Turkey steam role these mutt armeniod Turkslavs in 20 minutes

I was thinking along those lines as well. I mean even if the Serbs hadn't taken the hardware and radar at the initial split, it's still a silly thing for them to have legit worried about.
I recall a political cartoon from a Greek newspaper around 2004/2005 that had a few Macedonian troops rushing over the border backed by US tanks......(I think this was around the time the US was building the way too big embassy)

[JPMKD]

Yes I know the figures are sourced from Sitel but thought it relevant to show how public opinion is currenlty being conveyed

The realities of the deal are sinking in though. Well to be fair, it's still early. no one has come in and told them what to think yet!
(Yes, still cynical.....)
I am encouraged a small amount by the memorandum's and the BBC "issue"

[Tomche Makedonche]

Yes I know the figures are sourced from Sitel but thought it relevant to show how public opinion is currenlty being conveyed

http://www.ekathimerini.com/238066/a...eal-poll-shows

Public divided in North Macedonia over name deal, poll shows

Public opinion in North Macedonia is divided over the Prespes agreement with Greece, according to a recent survey in the neighboring country.

More specifically, the poll, conducted on behalf of the Sitel TV channel, showed that 44.6 percent said they felt positively about the accord against 45.6 percent who said they had negative feelings about it.

However, a significant 59.5 percent said they believe the deal will have a positive impact on relations between the two countries.

Moreover, 57.7 percent expressed belief that both countries will implement the deal.

Around half (50.5 percent) of those surveyed said they thought the government in Skopje did a good job during the negotiations with Greece against 40.7 percent who said it didn’t. Another 49.2 percent said they believe the name deal will make it easier to travel to Greece.

Meanwhile, opposition parties in Greece reacted angrily to a BBC report on Sunday that referred to a Macedonian minority in Greece that speaks the Macedonian language.

Diplomatic sources in Greece refuted the claim of a Macedonian minority and said the government will send a letter in protest to the BBC.

Concern was also raised in Greece by a letter sent by the North Macedonian Foreign Ministry to local journalists with instructions that the language of the country and the nationality of its citizens will both be called Macedonian – as is stipulated in the Prespes agreement.

There was also consternation in Greece after the publication of the note verbale that Skopje had sent to the United Nations two weeks ago with regard to the country’s acronyms MK and MKD.
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[Big Bad Sven]

Exactly what I thought when reading this. Almost three decades of lying to the world that they’re concerned Macedonia has territorial aspirations toward “their” northern region and now this. Fucking vultures.

Yeah you and RTG said it, and I too thought exactly the same thing when I read the article.

They have almost spent 3 decades playing the victim and generating artificial fear mongering that Macedonia will one day have territorial aspirations on Aegean Macedonia. Its no secret Macedonia cant even defend itself, let alone invade another country.

Would love to see Turkey steam role these mutt armeniod Turkslavs in 20 minutes

[Soldier of Macedon]

Before the name change they were scared Macedonia was going to take over all of northern Greece. The lying little C grade actors they are.

Exactly what I thought when reading this. Almost three decades of lying to the world that they’re concerned Macedonia has territorial aspirations toward “their” northern region and now this. Fucking vultures.