We bought that church from the Bulgarians
Macedonian Church Dispute in Australia
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Anyone here who doesnt know who the Greek Archbishop Karavangelis is needs to learn asap. He was the Greek bishop of Kostur who was responsible for many atrocities against Macedonian Christian villagers and he was the the one who orchestrated:
- The "Zagorichani Massacre", which ended with 60 Macedonians murdered from ages 4 to 100.
- The "Zelenich Bloody wedding", which was an attack on Macedonians during a wedding celebration which ended in 13 people getting murdered ages 10 to 50, including the groom.
- He openly told a British journalist that he was the one who paid 50 liras to murder and behead Macedonian revolutionary Lazar Poptraikov, he then took the head in his personal office on his desk to take a photograph of it.
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostKO
I stand corrected, all previous Macedonian Churhes fell under other exarchates, therefore the Fitzroy Church was the first in the world!
It was Macedonian.
If you want to see real Macedonian churches without any UDBA connections or "Yugo pride" involvement, I would look to Australia and its founding churches.Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostThe Ohrid Archbishopric was autocephalous until 1767.
It was Macedonian.
If you want to see real Macedonian churches without any UDBA connections or "Yugo pride" involvement, I would look to Australia and its founding churches.
Wasn't it under another exarchate at the time?On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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1767 or 1967??I thought it was latter year one."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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Originally posted by Niko777 View PostAnyone here who doesnt know who the Greek Archbishop Karavangelis is needs to learn asap. He was the Greek bishop of Kostur who was responsible for many atrocities against Macedonian Christian villagers and he was the the one who orchestrated:
- The "Zagorichani Massacre", which ended with 60 Macedonians murdered from ages 4 to 100.
- The "Zelenich Bloody wedding", which was an attack on Macedonians during a wedding celebration which ended in 13 people getting murdered ages 10 to 50, including the groom.
- He openly told a British journalist that he was the one who paid 50 liras to murder and behead Macedonian revolutionary Lazar Poptraikov, he then took the head in his personal office on his desk to take a photograph of it.Even Turkey has shown a more progressive attitude in relation to it's Kurdish minority than the Greeks. Note the similar tactics of denial .... Some analysts consider the new channel a sort of revolution for Turkey, considering that between 1983 and 1991 it was illegal to speak Kurdish.
There stands the maggot himself next to his Turkish buddies, ready to bless the cannons that were later fired into Macedonian Christian villages.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View PostWe bought that church from the Bulgarians
My parents generation built that church in Fitzroy with their own collections and bare hands.
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostThe Ohrid Archbishopric was autocephalous until 1767.
It was Macedonian.
If you want to see real Macedonian churches without any UDBA connections or "Yugo pride" involvement, I would look to Australia and its founding churches.
I know you probably do not place any credence in wikipedia articles, but that article is pretty balanced.
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Originally posted by George S. View Post1767 or 1967??I thought it was latter year one.
1967 was the year that the Yugozombies allowed us to have a Macedonian Church hierarchy. The timing of being 200 years was supposed to cash in on the original Archbishrophic and like VMRO DPMNE, attempt to paint an unbroken, continuous link with teh original hierarchy, but they are not one and the same.
Sv Georgi in Young Street Fitzroy was the first unequivocal Macedonian Church anywhere in the world and my parents were there at its consecration.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Posthttp://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...cannons&page=2
There stands the maggot himself next to his Turkish buddies, ready to bless the cannons that were later fired into Macedonian Christian villages.
My elderly parents were brought up with stories from childhood from their elders about the criminal cruelty that this beastly animal had perpetrated only 30 odd years earlier.
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Originally posted by Kosturski Orel View PostRisto Altin and his band of merry men (Dane Trpkov, Koco Kalincev, Vanco Nedelkovski, Janko Kalincev, etc etc) established the first Macedonian Orthodox Church in the world.
End of.
Prior to this, we always had to worship in other national churches with mixed degrees of attachment.
About these history books that I should consult - please enlighten me.
I know or have personally met all of the abovemetioned members.On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by Kosturski Orel View PostIt is highly debateable that the Archbishrophic of Ohrid was Macedonian as we know it today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishopric_of_Ohrid
I know you probably do not place any credence in wikipedia articles, but that article is pretty balanced.
The Patriarch Damyan managed to escape, initially to Sredets. In the coming years, the residence of the Bulgarian patriarchs remained closely connected to the developments in the war between the next Bulgarian monarchist dynasty, the Comitopuli, and the Byzantine Empire. Thus, the next Patriarch German resided consecutively in Moglen, Voden and Prespa. Around 990, the last patriarch, Philip, moved to Ohrid, which also became the permanent seat of the Patriarchate.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Apparently there is a current court case does anyone know the outcome??"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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