I feel we are about to reach a logical and informed conclusion to this terrible mess. And it will inevitably and appropriately be to the detriment of Petar.
Macedonian Church Dispute in Australia
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Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
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Originally posted by aleksandrov View PostВчерашното интервју на 24 Анализа, во врска со обидите на владиката Петар, за себични цели, да ги минира преговорите помеѓу Македонските православни општини од Австралија и Синодот на Македонската православна црква:
PRV DEL
http://24vesti.com.mk/analiza-1-del-07-12-2012
VTOR DEL
http://24vesti.com.mk/analiza-2-del-07-12-2012
TRET DEL
http://24vesti.com.mk/analiza-3-del-07-12-2012
Either way, its interesting to see how things are progressing. On the face of it, it looks like its moving in the right direction.If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Niko777 View PostI'm not an expert on this dispute, can someone please tell me why Tsarknias' name keeps coming up in articles about the Macedonian church dispute in Australia?If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View PostTsarknias was potentially going to be invited to become the new Bishop for the Australian Macedonians church communities who are opposing Petar. But that may have now been superceded as it appears the Synod has finally woken up to what has been happening here for the past 16 years.
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Archbishop Stefan has called on Petar to resign from the Australian diocese:
http://www.mkd.mk/82388/makedonija/p...-da-se-povlec/If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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It looks like the Synod was just playing games after all. It now wants to see how the court case relating to Sv. Petka will finish and for some reason DPMNE has announced it preferred "position" on the whole matter. What on earth DPMNE has to do with anything in relation to internal church affairs is beyond me but Macedonia seems to be on the perverse side of everything so it shouldn't come as any surprise. In addition, Petar's henchmen seem to have arrived in Macedonia to stir things up.
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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yeah Tom he has made a mess of things in australia.He is not carrrying his full duties of metropolitan as only administrative if that.So why call his resignation now when he should have been gotten rid of years ago.The sad fact is the synod knew & approved what petar did it's as simple as that.The synod is at fault as well for all the things that have happened in australia.He is still carrying on his shameless things on dividing the macedonian people.Almost as if he is not a shepherd leading the sheep to pasture.THis man petar has been more hellbent on wanton destruction by creating a huge sebt hole in the churches.On the political aspects of dpmne wasn't petar a supposed personal friend of nikola gruevski.So when it's voting time the vladika can give yay or nay.Also you mentioned there is so much infiltration of the vladika's people in macedonia i'm not surprised.Also i heard that vladika has his own trusted inner circle of people to look after him &guide him."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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It seems the Synod and Petar are still playing games:
If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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No matter who they send they will do the dirtywork for the synod.The synod doesn't seem to change their fundamental beleifs so that we can expect more of the same.Yes they are
playing games & i don't think people are hjappy with that."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer
https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn
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well said igor you gave a a good account of what's really going on ,a pity the other side can't do the same."Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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i just heard on the radio how vladika timotej is to be appointed metropolitan of australia & NZ for 3 years..Does anyone know anything more what timotej's views are & how is he going to work with the churches??"Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
GOTSE DELCEV
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