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Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Prolet, where are you? Have you cast your vote?
I encourage all members that have an active interest in this discussion to have their say and put their vote in for either 'yes' or 'no', including the UMD apologists we have here, it all goes to the credibility of that organisation that you vehemently protect on a daily basis.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post$300K in 1.5 years...thats some effort...
Just think about how many Turkish immigrants are in Germany Switzerland and Belgium, think about how many other Turkish diaspora organizations may have forwarded funds to the US startup. Ask Onur about Turkish diaspora if you really want to get technical, I don't know how you could even compare Macedonian and Turkish diaspora's, especially when one numbers in the 10's of millions."I'm happy to answer any question and I don't hide from that"
Never once say you walk upon your final way
though skies of steel obscure the blue of day.
Our long awaited hour will draw near
and our footsteps will thunder - We are Here!
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Bill, Thats fair enough and i understand what you mean by all that. Sekoja Majka si go fali svoeto dete and i dont blame you for saying what you said that perfectly fine by me. I just hope we all support our organizations that are doing good for our Community world wide, its not easy but we are a small community and we need to stick together through thick and thin.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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SOM, Im not exactly sure why it was brought up since the UMD have denied this themselves. Its an obvious answer. Alot of forum members havnt voted yet and i wont be neither the first nor last person to vote in this poll.МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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If it is obvious, then why not vote Prolet?
You have confirmed they do not represent the Diaspora. Why not confirm it for statistical purposes?Risto the Great
MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
"Holding my breath for the revolution."
Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
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Ok Prolet, thanks for confirming that you're a spineless fence-sitter and apologist who is scared to voice his own opinion on a matter concerning the integrity of the Macedonian people.
If (now!) the UMD don't seem to think of themselves as representing the Macedonian Diaspora (as they have claimed in the past), then why on earth do they have three words in the name of their organisation which indicates that they do?In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View PostOk Prolet, thanks for confirming that you're a spineless fence-sitter and apologist who is scared to voice his own opinion on a matter concerning the integrity of the Macedonian people.
If (now!) the UMD don't seem to think of themselves as representing the Macedonian Diaspora (as they have claimed in the past), then why on earth do they have three words in the name of their organisation which indicates that they do?
That's the "misrepresentation" I referred to earlier!On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"
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Originally posted by Buktop View PostWell seeing as the Turks actually work together and avoid bullshit infighting, it is not a difficult feat achieving $300k. By the way, I can tell you for a fact that there are more than 120k Turks in the US, and there are many very affluent ones as well. The Turkish communities have always been stronger, more numerous and more organized than any Macedonian one has achieved to date.
Just think about how many Turkish immigrants are in Germany Switzerland and Belgium, think about how many other Turkish diaspora organizations may have forwarded funds to the US startup. Ask Onur about Turkish diaspora if you really want to get technical, I don't know how you could even compare Macedonian and Turkish diaspora's, especially when one numbers in the 10's of millions.
The rest is mere Buktopism... baseless assumptions built on the advice of someone going by some fake internet name (no offence Onur).If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams
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Originally posted by Risto the Great View PostIf it is obvious, then why not vote Prolet?
You have confirmed they do not represent the Diaspora. Why not confirm it for statistical purposes?In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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You make a good point Risto, but if you recall earlier the UMD openly stated that they do not represent the whole Diaspora so when the UMD openly states this there is no need to go any further.
I think its time for me to cast my vote now
SOM, I think this post might explain a few things on the Maknews Forum.
МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
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Originally posted by makedonche View PostSoM
That's the "misrepresentation" I referred to earlier!
To me, I would rather someone like Buktop that is openly pro-UMD and therefore possesses at least some principle where it concerns his stance (irrespective if it isn't aligned with Macedonians here or elsewhere), than a fence-sitter like Prolet who goes whichever way the wind blows.
Buktop, have you voted? Or are you going to hop-scotch past this one like Volk and Prolet have done? You guys are so quick to defend the UMD on every thread, yet when it counts for statistical purposes, there is absence. Put your money where your mouth is, as they say.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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Originally posted by ProletUMD openly stated that they do not represent the whole Diaspora
Hope you stepped off the fence, rather than falling off.In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
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