Wahabists write Bin Laden songs in Albanian

[Risto the Great]

It should be pointed out that the most militant Albanians constitute these mad Wahabists. I would be hopping on the usa batphone and asking for help immediately.

[George S.]

i heard on the tv that america could get bin ladin any time it wanted after all they set him up.At this time it's innapropriate to get him.

[Epirot]

Epirot, what is your opinion on this? Just some poor misled Albanians? Why isn't there such a song in Macedonian, Roma or Turkish? These are the news articles you shouldn't occur.

Should we blame all Albanians only for a few Islamic boneheads? Believe me, all Albanians hate wahabist and other islamic sects.

[Bratot]

Why should we believe you?

[Epirot]

Why should we believe you?

Because I know that they (the so called Whabist) are ridiculed and hated by all. Even the Muslim believers consider them as a disgrace of Islam.

[Risto the Great]

Because I know that they (the so called Whabist) are ridiculed and hated by all. Even the Muslim believers consider them as a disgrace of Islam.

I know an Albanian here in Australia who has Arabic Wahabists visit him trying to teach him the "rightful" path. He is made to feel less muslim because of his pro-Western ideals. It is not difficult to believe these people can be influenced especially if they have no money.

But I would have to say evidence is loud and clear that ethnic Muslim Albanians of Macedonia are very true to their faith. They have no regard for the country they live in and would prefer a caliphate to what they live in. Epirot, my evidence is plain and obvious based on the resentment ethnic Albanians have for the Macedonian nation.

Epirot, if the Wahabists are hated by all, how the hell did they get into the middle of Skopje with their mosques?

[Prolet]

Saudi Arabia is financing in Europe, they made up all sorts of pyramid schemes where people put in money and in the end lost everything. The fact that the Albanians are easy to manipulate, the Wahabists from the Middle East give the leaders a nice wage and in return they control the people.

Its not just in Macedonia they are doing it in Kosovo,Bosnia,Albania etc

[Epirot]

I know an Albanian here in Australia who has Arabic Wahabists visit him trying to teach him the "rightful" path. He is made to feel less muslim because of his pro-Western ideals. It is not difficult to believe these people can be influenced especially if they have no money.

But I would have to say evidence is loud and clear that ethnic Muslim Albanians of Macedonia are very true to their faith. They have no regard for the country they live in and would prefer a caliphate to what they live in. Epirot, my evidence is plain and obvious based on the resentment ethnic Albanians have for the Macedonian nation.

Epirot, if the Wahabists are hated by all, how the hell did they get into the middle of Skopje with their mosques?

Risto, not all mosques in Macedonia are a priori Wahabists. Even real Muslims are threated by pestilence of Wahabists.
Wahabists are struggling to spread their influence toward all Muslims of Balkan. They accomplished great success especially in Sandjak of Novi Pazar and in Bosnia. One of major authorities in Islam, S.Schatz stated that they had establish a base in Sandjak. Other reports indicate that Serbia's policy intentionally tolerated the growing of such influence because it goes in favour of itself to create an image of Serbia as a 'shield of Europe against Asiatic invasions'. Do you get my view-point?

I have many friends that are good Muslim believers but they hate every Wahabist appearance in mosques they frequent. They said to me that their rituals does not corresponds at all with Islam they practice. I heard many incidents occurred in many mosques of my country: some Muslim clerics were beaten by some unknown Whabist groups.

[Frank]

Epirot as For Macedonian-Albanians having any regard for the Macedonian State the answer is squarely NO!

[Risto the Great]

Other reports indicate that Serbia's policy intentionally tolerated the growing of such influence because it goes in favour of itself to create an image of Serbia as a 'shield of Europe against Asiatic invasions'. Do you get my view-point?

I don't buy that one Epirot. It sounds a little too "conspiracy theory" to me.

I am positive many ethnic Albanians in Macedonia do not adhere to the Wahabist mantra. I am not sure if they are deeply religious in any major way truth be told.

On an earlier point, you avoided the other observation I made. There appears to be a deep resentment of the Macedonian nation by ethnic Albanians of Macedonia. Why do you think this is the case?

[Soldier of Macedon]

Should we blame all Albanians only for a few Islamic boneheads? Believe me, all Albanians hate wahabist and other islamic sects.

No, not all ethnic Albanians in Macedonia. But certainly Albanians nevertheless, like I have said earlier, I don't see any Turks or Roma espousing this idiotic garbage, nor Macedonians. The only people that behave in this way are Albanians. Have a think about it. You are in a small minority my Christian Albanian friend, a very small minority. Take off the blinkers and open your eyes, these so-called "wahabists" find their avenue into the Balkans through Albanians. Get it? Let me know when you find a Roma, Turk or Macedonian that assists in the importation of this sort of sick treachery.

[George S.]

That's exactly right prolet the saudis are supplying millions of dollars to change things in macedonia.Paying people if they do certain things & making their wives wear hijab etc.They certainly want to maintain
fundamental beliefs in macedonia.There is a saying stir up the melting pot.!

[Epirot]

No, not all ethnic Albanians in Macedonia. But certainly Albanians nevertheless, like I have said earlier, I don't see any Turks or Roma espousing this idiotic garbage, nor Macedonians. The only people that behave in this way are Albanians. .

I don't know how could you count these few people as 'Albanians'. In the moment they espouse the dogmas of religion...they do not consider themselves as a part of any nation. According to them, they belong to the Islamic "brothers" through the whole world.

Take off the blinkers and open your eyes, these so-called "wahabists" find their avenue into the Balkans through Albanians.

I have read many international reports from foreign monitoring organizations about Macedonia but not a single indication mention that "Wahabists" find their avenue into the Balkans through Albanians.

Let me know when you find a Roma, Turk or Macedonian that assists in the importation of this sort of sick treachery.

Until know you did not support your claims with any relevant proof when Albanians "assists" in the importation of this sort of retarded religion.

[Epirot]

I don't buy that one Epirot. It sounds a little too "conspiracy theory" to me.

I am positive many ethnic Albanians in Macedonia do not adhere to the Wahabist mantra. I am not sure if they are deeply religious in any major way truth be told.

You have no idea how insignificance has the religion among us. You shouldn't estimate things in their first appearance. There are plenty of documentations how Albanians do not care much for the religion. From all Muslims of the world Albanians are the most liberals. Furthermore its not a rare phenomenon when Muslim families celebrate Christian celebrations or pre-christian Pagan rites. When I was at the home of some friends in L. - Zajas municipality, they decorated eggs. Is not a Orthodox tradition, is it?

I don't buy that one Epirot. It sounds a little too "conspiracy theory" to me.

No matter how it "sounds"...
Serbia is well-known for manipulating the religious communities for its own political (and even military) goals. For example during the bloody wars after the collapse of Yugoslavia, The orthodox serbian church played a destructive role that it is not in its dignity. Serbian orthodox priests blessed the Serbian soldiers who later massacred innocent people in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova. Not a long time ago, Serbia's policy put forth in use the Islamic community of Serbia in order to agitate through Muslim countries to not recognize the independence of Kosova.

On an earlier point, you avoided the other observation I made. There appears to be a deep resentment of the Macedonian nation by ethnic Albanians of Macedonia. Why do you think this is the case?

We already have discussed in the previous threads about that matter. In short, I strongly believe that if Macedonian policy count Albanians as allies as long as we share common political interests and treat them as should be treated allies, I assure you that Macedonian state will earn the respect of all Albanians living within Republic of Macedonia.