New neo-Nazi terror group discovered in Germany, murdered 10, injured one so far

[Bill77]

In Greece we are being overrun (literally) by immigrants

Ahhh.... The history of Modern Greece. Its a common event dating back from the 6th century. Watch out for this new wave of Africans and middle Easterns that will become sons of Pericles, Demostenisa and Socrates in no time.

By the way, Southern Macedonia was not immune to "immigrant" problems. After 1913, we had so called Greeks overrunning us. The difference was, on this occasion, there was harassment and deaths and it was caused by these immigrants.

Voltron, watch out mate. You don't want the Macedonian demise to occur to Greece where these immigrants take over and run the country and claim they are the true inheritors of Greece.

You may like to try to turn this topic into a Greek one as usual,......

You are right, i don't know why each time a discussion comes up re: racism, human rights, injustice, corruption....Greece or Greeks come into the topic. Actually....i do know....that's because Greeks have an image of the above and deservedly so. Its a bad image mate so instead of sweeping it under the carpet (where it will reappear), change your behaviour, and it will go away.

[Voltron]

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Ahhh.... The history of Modern Greece. Its a common event dating back from the 6th century.

I was going to take a cheap shot on this one, but its not worth it.

By the way, Southern Macedonia was not immune to "immigrant" problems. After 1913, we had so called Greeks overrunning us. The difference was, on this occasion, there was harassment and deaths and it was caused by these immigrants.

Comparing war time to peace time conditions ?

You are right, i don't know why each time a discussion comes up re: racism, human rights, injustice, corruption....Greece or Greeks come into the topic. Actually....i do know....that's because Greeks have an image of the above and deservedly so. Its a bad image mate so instead of sweeping it under the carpet (where it will reappear), change your behaviour, and it will go away.

Post some sources of hangings, murders, lynchings or even greivous bodily harm. Than compare those stats to our neighbors or even better yet to northern Europe, USA or even Australia. Your living in a bubble Bill.

Anyway, its good to see you still havnt lost your sense of humor.

[Bill77]

I was going to take a cheap shot on this one, but its not worth it.

Don't be afraid...spit it out son.

Comparing war time to peace time conditions ?

It was relentless through out. Even to this day, harassment is still the norm, if you identify as a Macedonian.

Post some sources of hangings, murders, lynchings or even greivous bodily harm.

You avoided racism, human rights, injustice, corruption. They are the words i brought up.
Again sweeping it under the carpet, are we?

If its hangings, murder,lynchings or even greivous bodily harm you want, I can guarantee there are some sources here on MTO and i will find them if you want me to. But you have issues with topics turning into a Greek issue. So i really don't know what you want.

I tell you what, since you are now out of a job (which is most likely) in your spare time (which Greeks have plenty of) go through this thread and knock your self out.

'Greeks involved in wars"

http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3175

Anyway, its good to see you still havnt lost your sense of humor.

I didn't have one to begin with.
But i am starting to get one now that i watch this comedy called Greece

[Voltron]

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It was relentless through out. Even to this day, harassment is still the norm, if you identify as a Macedonian.

Sure it is, thats why we call out the SWAT team whenever you guys get together to dance and have a good time.

You avoided racism, human rights, injustice, corruption. They are the words i brought up.
Again sweeping it under the carpet, are we?

Its a broken record mate, if you actually lived here than it would be a different story. Corruption is bad, no argument there. Injustice, sure, step in line. You arent the only one that feels you got screwed.

If its hangings, murder,lynchings or even greivous bodily harm you want, I can guarantee there are some sources here on MTO and i will find them if you want me to. But you have issues with topics turning into a Greek issue. So i really don't know what you want.

Its not what I want, its what was related to the topic of this thread.

I tell you what, since you are now out of a job (which is most likely) in your spare time (which Greeks have plenty of) go through this thread and knock your self out.

I almost wish I was so I can go back home.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

why don't they take it up with their government and campaign/demand for a change of policy?

Because the government doesn't give a shit about the native people.

You've lived in Australia, would you like to be beaten up because you or your parents were immigrants?

If Australia was like that then I wouldn't come.

[Onur]

As the investigation continues, more and more clues are coming up. Now, German intelligence agency confessed that one of his agents was present in the murder scenes committed by the neo-Nazis in 2006. According to the reports, eye witnesses informed against the agent as the only person in the crime scene who acted relaxed and didn't even bother calling the police after they killed the Turkish guy. It turned out that when he revealed his secret agent ID to the police, they didn't even need to investigate about him and let him go.

So, the link between underground Nazi organization and German intelligence has been confirmed as the Nazis already had German state issued, authentic fake-IDs.

Also, it turned out that the Nazi organization had kill-list of 88 person in Germany, including some prominent Turks in Germany and some leftist German politicians.

Germans try to make sense of scandal
Germany has been gripped by the scandal unfolding around the neo-Nazi National Socialist Underground. But so much of what has emerged so far does not quite make sense. Here are some questions ordinary Germans would like answering:

1. Why did Beate Zschäpe decide to turn herself in to the police? Is she hoping to turn supergrass and give state's evidence in return for a shorter sentence?

2. Did Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Böhnhardt really kill themselves? One man was shot in the head; another in the chest (the latter is an unusual form of suicide). Could Zschäpe have murdered them both? Did they set fire to their campervan before killing themselves or did someone else light the match afterwards?

3. Why did the two men burn the money they had apparently stolen from a Zwickauer bank that day rather than give it to Zschäpe?

4. How did the Pink Panther confession DVDs survive flames in the trio's Zwickau flat despite temperatures being so hot that investigators say they found melted guns?

5. How did the National Socialist Underground choose their victims? Were they all chosen at random?

6. Can the group be linked to any other unsolved crimes?

7. Did the authorities have any contact with the group during their 13 years on the run?

8. Why did investigators looking into the nine so-called Doner Killings blame foreign mafia rather than properly investigating rightwing hatred as a motive, considering that all the victims were immigrants?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...doner-killings

You can read from here;

German neo-Nazi terrorists had 'hitlist' of 88 political targets

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/german-neo-nazi-terror-hitlist?newsfeed=true

Neo-Nazi terror scandal grows in Germany

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/16/german-neo-nazi-security-service-scandal?INTCMP=SRCH