Macedonian president Cancels Ohrid Summit

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  • Orovnichanec
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    • Sep 2008
    • 410

    Macedonian president Cancels Ohrid Summit

    The Summit dedicated for cooperation between SE European nations was cancelled by the Macedonian president Gjorgje Ivanov earlier today.
    The cabintet of the Macedonian president announced the Summit was cancelled to protect state interests and Macedonia's dignity, adding Macedonia does not wish to be involved in games with 'vetos' and 'boycotts'.

    Unfortunately, Balkan stereotypes played a major role in the cancellation of the summit after Serbia, Bosnia and Romania objected to the host that should Kosovo be invited by the hosts they would not take part in the Summit. On the other hand, Albania and Croatia sided with Kosovo and proclaimed that if Kosovo was not invited they would cancel their participation.

    It was at this point where the Macedonian president decided to simply uninvite them all.

    "Macedonia followed all acts of the process. Unfortunately, old Balkan prejudices and stereotypes are alive again and I won't allow Macedonia to be put in the middle of it, nor to pay the price for it." said the Macedonian president who was host of the Summit.
    According to president Ivanov "issues and challenges are resolved through a dialog".

    "The entire year we were preparing for this Summit and I did everything I could to bring all leaders in Ohrid to sit at the same table" says Ivanov, adding he wishes luck to the next organizer of the Summit.

    This is a clear signal to Europe, which reflects the reality in our region and it should serve as a warning, said Ivanov, noting that "state integrity and dignity are most important."


    "Oh, Macedonians! It is time we realized that the greatest demon Macedonia must battle against is none other than Bulgaria" - Krste Petkov Misirkov
  • Vangelovski
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 8533

    #2
    The only people willing to negotiate and compromise on fundamental issues seem to be the Macedonians. Everyone else seems to take a stand. I wonder if Ivanov's view was based on his gut feelings or immutable principles that can be objectively determined?
    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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    • Bill77
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 4545

      #3
      According to president Ivanov "issues and challenges are resolved through a dialog".
      http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/23427/1/
      Are you kidding Mr President?

      Give me one example of where your country has resolved an issue that justifies your naive thinking.
      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15660

        #4
        Cancelled because Kosovo wasn't invited. Since the ethnic Albanians run Macedonia, it was dead in the water.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15660

          #5
          Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
          I wonder if Ivanov's view was based on his gut feelings or immutable principles that can be objectively determined?
          Does it matter? If something is inherently wrong, does that mean it will not proceed? Give me patriotic desire, I will do the rest. As has been shown time and time again in history.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Vangelovski
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 8533

            #6
            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            Does it matter? If something is inherently wrong, does that mean it will not proceed? Give me patriotic desire, I will do the rest. As has been shown time and time again in history.
            The point is, if I ask Ivanov what he stands for today, he'll give me an answer. If I ask him again tommorrow, he'll give me another answer. He has no principles. He's not grounded in anything. A man that is not grounded in prinicple will swing around like an emotionally unstable drama queen.

            This was UMD's problem. That is what ended them before they even started. They felt patriotic, and probably still do, but they refuse to ground themselves in immutable principles based on a moral value claim.
            If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

            The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15660

              #7
              Originally posted by Vangelovski View Post
              This was UMD's problem. That is what ended them before they even started. They felt patriotic, and probably still do, but they refuse to ground themselves in immutable principles based on a moral value claim.
              The Macedonian Cause is right on the money!
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Vangelovski
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 8533

                #8
                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                The Macedonian Cause is right on the money!
                Yeah, but that's not based on feelings. That is a rational articulation of our principles which are based on inalieanable natural rights. It has nothing to do with feelings. That's why its right on the money.
                If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  talking of macedonias interests isn't that too late.We seem to be missing the boat all the time.Well meaning politicians are nothing but that.We have allways been left in the cold.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • kallogjeri
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 3

                    #10
                    The leaders of Today nothing have in common with Alexander The Great whose history starts with the submission of the wild horse. They are not able to make their own decisions.
                    They must not updated, but removed.

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                    • George S.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10116

                      #11
                      where are the real wise people they seem to have taken many steps back.Look at the indecissions at our name but they have secretly capitulated as well.for example gruevski has accepted many name formulas for macedonia.
                      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                      GOTSE DELCEV

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