Macedonian Presidential Elections 2014

[xhondoe]

A document of the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs verifies that in 1912 Skopje had 80 percent Albanian population. Specifically according to the document, the population of Skopje was 50,000, of whom 40,000 were Albanians. The document was found by the historian Skender Hasani who states that the document explicitely proves that the population of Skopje had Albanians as majority.

The historian also stated, “Immediately after the occupation of Skopje in 1912 by Serbs, the Serbs immediately have begun implementing their project through land reform which brought settlers from ‘shumadia’ and the structure of the population was significantly changed, but between the years 1943 – 1944, Skopje was again dominated by Albanians”.

After the earthquake he claims that Slavs coming from Macedonia in Greece and elsewhere from Eastern Europe were brought to Skopje, and changed the ethnic structure of the city, while the number of Albanians started drastically to decline.

[xhondoe]

natalities in Macedonia official data

[Soldier of Macedon]

Talking about myth the greatest myth is Macedonia and most of the world thinks so or is most of the world peasants and idiots.

Most nations dispute aspects of their neighbours' histories. The history of Macedonia is no more a myth than that of Albania, Greece or any other Balkan country. But don't forget that you're at a Macedonian forum, and here, while we accept different opinions for the sake of discussion, we will not allow others to denigrate our national history. It is the same in other forums, be they Albanian or whatever.

A document of the Italian Ministry of Foreign Affairs verifies that in 1912 Skopje had 80 percent Albanian population.

And what were those figures based on? Did the Italian minister of foreign affairs survey the whole of Skopje?

After the earthquake he claims that Slavs coming from Macedonia in Greece and elsewhere from Eastern Europe were brought to Skopje, and changed the ethnic structure of the city, while the number of Albanians started drastically to decline.

Those that came from what became Greece were Macedonians. Refer to them as such if you want to continue having discussions here.

By the way, include your information in lesser posts rather than posting several times within a few minutes. You're needlessly congesting the thread.

[xhondoe]

according to statistics every year 4500+ is albanian death birtih ratio

according to statistics every yar is -3000 macedonian death birth ratio

So according to macedonian statistis every year we have 4500 more albanians and 3000 less macedonians.

[xhondoe]

accoring to the 2002 census the muslims in Macedonia are 34%!

while now they are probably 40%,or at least close to 40%
by 2030 things will probably be like 50/50 in Macedonia...

[xhondoe]

From the 2002 census

0-19 years of age by religion

Age

0-4
Orthodox 63.229
Muslims 57.208

5-9
Orthodox 73.384
Muslims 67.227

10-14
Orthodox 86.952
Muslims 70.443

15-19
Orthodox 98.253
Muslims 64.232

[Vangelovski]

natalities in Macedonia official data

These are not the census statistics. These are unidentified numbers for which you could not even provide a source.

You have not responded to my point - why do you think one Albanian is worth 2-3 Macedonians? That is pure and simple racism. Even if Albanians really were 35 per cent of the population, you are still promoting the racist notion that one Albanian is worth 2 Macedonians (or 3 non-Albanians) and the apartheid idea that one-third (or in reality, one-quarter) of the population should have equal political power with the rest.

[xhondoe]

City of Skopje

Births/Deaths for 2008-2009-2010-2011

Macedonians

3.327 / 3.503
3.417 / 3.495
3.443 / 3.558
3.290 / 3.545


Albanians

1.974 / 619
2.030 / 656
2.240 / 636
2.194 / 637




Roma

655 / 186
701 / 200
687 / 186
641 / 204


Serbs

47 / 94
61 / 89
42 / 130
43 / 141


Turks

108 / 28
100 / 38
72 / 37
96 / 29


Bosniaks

73 / 37
89 / 34
81 / 36
85 / 41

[xhondoe]

you can seach u self if u dont believe the data by u country.

[xhondoe]

Births by ethnic affiliation and their % of the total:
2008 : 22.945 total

Macedonians 12.245 (53.37 %)
Albanians 7.309 (31.85 %)
Roma 1.558 (6.79 %)
Turks 979 (4.27 %)
Bosnians 193 (0.84 %)
Serbs 138 (0.60 %)

2009 : 23.684

Macedonians 12.490 (52.74 %)
Albanians 7.454 (31.47 %)
Roma 1.749 (7.38 %)
Turks 1.087 (4.59 %)
Bosnians 193 (0.81 %)
Serbs 128 (0.54 %)

2010 : 24.296

Macedonians 12.658 (52.10 %)
Albanians 7.888 (32.47 %)
Roma 1.806 (7.43 %)
Turks 1.080 (4.45 %)
Bosniaks 192 (0.79 %)
Serbs 109 (0.45 %)

2011 : 22.770

Macedonians 11.544 (50.70 %)
Albanians 7.727 (33.94 %)
Roma 1.574 (6.91 %)
Turks 1.046 (4.59 %)
Bosnians 213 (0.94 %)
Serbs 111 (0.49 %)

[xhondoe]

Albanians make 34 percent of current student population.official data.

[xhondoe]

Students in primary school by nationality 2010/11

Total: 201.914

Macedonians: 109.765 (54,3%)

Albanians: 66.156 (32,7%)

Roma: 9.933 (4,9%)

Turks: 9.011 (4,46%)

Bosniaks: 1.994 (0,98%)

Serbs: 1.733 (0,85%)

Vlachs: 316 (0,15%)

Others: 2.980 (1,47%)

[xhondoe]

Increases and Decreases in population as a reults of Biths/Deaths.

I combained them in two groups:

Christian Macedonians,Serbs and Vlachs
and Muslim Albanians,Turks,Gypsies and Bosniaks

2008

Macedonians,Serbs,Vlachs - 2.174

Albanians,Turks,Gypsies,Bosniaks + 6.137


2009

Macedonians,Serbs,Vlachs - 2.098

Albanians,Turks,Gypsies,Bosniaks + 6.722


2010

Macedonians,Serbs,Vlachs - 2028

Albanians,Turks,Gypsies,Bosniaks + 7.176


2011

Macedonians,Serbs,Vlachs - 3.225

Albanians,Turks,Gypsies,Bosniaks + 6.530

[xhondoe]

Christian population in 2027: 1,263,980
Total percentage 60.87%
A Decrease of 36,020 and 3.23%

Non Christian population in 2027: 812,619
Total percentage: 39.13%
A gain of 112,619 and 2.13%
Total Population of Macedonia in 2027: 2,076,527

using prediction from official data

[xhondoe]

We have these stats,about the albanians who were deported from Kosovo and Macedonia to Turkey in communist Yugoslav times:

19.300 Albanians in 1953.
17.500 in 1954.