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  • Struja
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 206

    Macedonia and NATO

    Former German Ambassador to Macedonia, Hans Lottar Stepan in an interview with Mia, Mina, A1, says Macedonia should not under any circumstances yield to Greece. He also calls Macedonia a “victim of Europe’s 20th century conspiracies”.


    - Your Excellency, for your book “The Macedonian knot”, you have received numerous awards. Most recently the “Krste Petkov Misirkov” award, but also award form Macedonian Academy of Sciences. How much these awards mean to you, as a satisfaction for your 15 years of research on Macedonia.

    I became a spiritual warrior for Macedonia. I have received awards from the County of Kisela Voda, from MANU, and the latest from the Ramkovski Foundation. It’s an honor for me to receive any, and all of them, I am very happy.

    - Arguments you have put forward in your book, “The Macedonian knot” have helped many people here and abroad to learn about Macedonia, its history.

    I am convinced that if any politician wishes to understand today’s political conflict between Macedonia and Greece, must look deep into the history. This history proved what I believed, for example, Greece prior to 1913 had never had Aegean Macedonia in its possession. Not in Antic, not in Roman, not during Ottoman, not at any point of time did Greece had anything to do with Macedonia.
    Only after an outrageous breach of international law in 1912-1913 during the Balkan Wars, together with Bulgaria and Serbia & Montenegro. They all occupied and took Macedonia, Thrace, and Epir.
    The main basis here is, Greece has illegally stolen Macedonian territory, which is against international law.
    This historical connection is independent from the right of Macedonia to self determination. Everyone on earth has the right to self determination, so does Macedonia, and no one can change this.

    -Your public speaking on Macedonia, as well as your positions in your book are somewhat different from Official German Politics.

    When I returned home, after I had spent three years as a German Ambassador to Macedonia, I had few speeches in Germany, regarding Macedonia, the Balkans, Southern Europe, Yugoslavia etc. I began to understand I am missing information on the origins, on the identities of the Balkan peoples. I spent several months in Bonn, looking at the vast Archives of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Then spent several months in Berlin.
    It is then and there that I realized what Macedonia’s neighboring countries are asking from you is completely unjustified and quite simply ridiculous.

    - You had sent letters to members of the European Union, NATO, to Scheffer and Barroso. Can we expect that a German diplomat not receive a response from EU and NATO?

    The EU and NATO are aware that Greece is very ’skillful’. The EU and NATO are completely aware that Greece is lying to them and to Macedonia and are even more aware that they should put a stop to it.
    All this is coming from a country, that calls itself a “cradle of democracy”. Greece must have responsibility for truth and justice.
    The European Commission also saw through Greece’s lies. If they continue to show their fake solidarity to Greece, then we are talking about bigger interests behind the curtains. I believe the background is the Balkan Wars and the relations between the Balkan League and the Entente*.

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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15660

    #2
    Rock solid.
    Thanks Struja.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Dejan
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 591

      #3
      Bomba!
      The more that awaken from this athenian matrix, the harder the fall for the athenians
      You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

      A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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      • Pelister
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2742

        #4
        The lies coming from the Modern Greeks are enough to upset anyone, let alone Macedonians, who live with it day in and day out, more or less.

        But, books like this are priceless !

        Every politician and bureacrat in the E.U should have a copy of this book, if they want to really understand what Greece is really up to, and also understand how the Modern Greeks have been cunningly misleading them, regarding the oppression of the Maceodnians.

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        • Pelister
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2742

          #6
          He looks older than I thought he would be.

          Anyone read German here?

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15660

            #7
            Macedonia and NATO

            What are the chances ...of Gruevski & Crvenkovski actually colluding to give the impression they are in dis-accord so that the Greeks are left with an impression that hope still exists for them, yet hope still remains with Macedonians. This openly public display of "un-affection" could culminate in a heavily compromised outcome fro Macedonia if there is a hint of understanding between Gruevski and Crvenkovski .

            ?
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Rogi
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2343

              #8
              Alternatively, it could be a display of instability, in an attempt to show how Greece's "name dispute" is creating instability for Macedonia and potential problems for the entire region, forcing the pressure on Greece to back down and allow Macedonia into NATO.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15660

                #9
                Or they just hate each other.
                (more likely I would imagine)
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • El Bre
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 713

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  Or they just hate each other.
                  (more likely I would imagine)
                  I'd have to go along with this one Risto. To think that this whole thing is contrived and part of some master plan is giving politicians waaaaay too much credit.

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                  • Struja
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 206

                    #11
                    the moron Lambros vs McCormack?: Daily Press Briefing

                    Lambros.


                    QUESTION: (Inaudible), Mr. McCormack. On the name issue between Athens and Skopje, during the various meeting of Secretary Rice at New York City last week, did you notice any progress so FYROM could become a NATO member? And how (inaudible) going on, this agreement between the Skopjen Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski and the Skopjen President Branko Crvenkovski is affects your efforts for a solution?


                    MR. MCCORMACK: Well, first of all, Lambros, nothing’s done until everything’s done. We’re continuing to work with the parties to encourage a solution.


                    And I have a question for you. You referred to them as Skopje, as opposed to your usual FYROM. I’m wondering if you, in fact, are coming a certain distance in your views on the name issue. (Laughter.)


                    QUESTION: No, no. The name according to the UN --


                    MR. MCCORMACK: We use Macedonia. Feel free to adopt it.


                    QUESTION: I said FYROM. You are saying Macedonia. I’m not accepting – I’m accepting what the UN has saying.


                    MR. MCCORMACK: Okay, all right.


                    QUESTION: One more question.


                    MR. MCCORMACK: Okay. (Laughter.)


                    QUESTION: The Congress last week passed a resolution sponsored by Senator Olympia Snowe and Robert Menendez replacing the so-called “Macedonia” with a legal one under the UN, FYROM. Are you going to honor this resolution, Mr. McCormack, since President Bush’s initiative considers to withdraw the recognition from November 4th, 2004?


                    MR. MCCORMACK: Lambros, I have not – I have not seen the resolution sponsored by the Senator from my home state. The Executive Branch of the United States Government has made a decision with respect to the name. We refer to that country as Macedonia.


                    Yeah.


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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15660

                      #12
                      We use Macedonia. Feel free to adopt it.
                      And get used to it.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Traveller
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 177

                        #13
                        Ha,ha i usually listen to this guy in the radio because he is correspodent of many Greek radio stations in America. When he is talking in the radio he is very serious (in briefings in the Us he sounds like he is ... but as he has said it's because they know each other and they are having fun.) As we all know him as Labros we even forgot his last name. In fact he is a socialist and i think that in his youth he said he was a commie.

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15660

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                          i think that in his youth he said he was a commie.
                          What? Kill him.
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • Traveller
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 177

                            #15
                            If the US spokesmen knew it they would have a great fun, right? The impression we've got here is that he is making the most questions from all foreign correspondents...

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