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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15660

    Slovenia was the economic powerhouse of Yugoslavia. Doing ok as part of the EU wouldn't be a problem. But you can't polish a turd ... Hence Bulgaria, Romania, Greece etc.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Big Bad Sven
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1528

      Originally posted by Gocka View Post
      I don't think the EU ever expected this to happen. I don't think even they thought we would end up being such spineless sellouts.

      Macedonia rightfully shouldn't be granted EU membership. Macedonia is a shit hole that is light years away from the core EU countries. I think they regret hastily accepting countries like Bulgaria and don't want to make those mistakes again.

      Macedonia has no economy. A fucked up legal system and no independent judiciary. Corruption and crime is rampant. It can loosely be considered a democracy, certainly not a functioning one. There is no press freedom, or at least no independent press. The infrastructure is shit, the schools are shit. The populace is under-educated and under-qualified for most modern work. The baking system is one decline away from collapse.

      If I were the EU, I would not grant Macedonia membership.
      Sounds a lot like the Gruevski government. But its strange how the EU/West seem to view Zaev as some sort of 'new age' and 'civilised' hero

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      • Phoenix
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4671

        Originally posted by Gocka View Post
        ...If I were the EU, I would not grant Macedonia membership.
        It depends on what use(s) Macedonia can provide for the EU...

        Lets say that places like Germany decide to offload some of their asylum seekers to another country, then a destination such as Macedonia could be a good option (for Germany)...all the krauts would have to do is dangle the EU-carrot to our corrupt and spineless politicians and all of a sudden the doors would open to tens of thousands of the displaced...

        Already thousands of young Macedonians are queuing up for jobs at McDonalds in Germany (mostly the same people reluctant to work in similar and often better jobs in Macedonia)...this is happening in the entire western world, nobody willing to fill the lower paying jobs.
        Macedonia can fill these gaps in EU countries...a form of slave labour in the 21st century from a very qualified servile people.

        Friends of mine just got back from a trip to Macedonia and they were telling me about some factory (auto components) just outside Bitola that is bringing in workers from the Ukraine and has begun to close off parts of the factory because lazy Macedonians don't want to work there...

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        • Pelagonija
          Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 533

          I think all this riff raff has to do with NATO and not EU. I think the EU accepting MKD in the EU is the price the west is willing to pay for aggressive NATO expansion.

          Two things will happen with EU membership:

          1) Expedite the departure of the best and brightest. How will Macedonia prosper with no doctors, teachers, labourers or innovators?
          2) The shit that remains behind will die out naturally.

          The west is going through a population decline, the only way to sustained their economies and pensions is by importing employable youth.

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15660

            China is getting old also. They have about 20 years before they suffer the same fate. And they won't be letting anyone become citizens readily. It's why they're trying to hock up as many countries as possible right now.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15660

              Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
              Lets say that places like Germany decide to offload some of their asylum seekers to another country, then a destination such as Macedonia could be a good option (for Germany)...all the krauts would have to do is dangle the EU-carrot to our corrupt and spineless politicians and all of a sudden the doors would open to tens of thousands of the displaced.
              I have no doubt this would be the singular reason for letting Macedonia in the EU.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Pelagonija
                Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 533

                Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                China is getting old also. They have about 20 years before they suffer the same fate. And they won't be letting anyone become citizens readily. It's why they're trying to hock up as many countries as possible right now.
                Why can't everyone be more like the Japs? they would rather die out than import wild hordes of bored misguided Muslim youth and lazy money hungry indians.

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                • Phoenix
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4671

                  Originally posted by Pelagonija View Post
                  I think all this riff raff has to do with NATO and not EU. I think the EU accepting MKD in the EU is the price the west is willing to pay for aggressive NATO expansion...
                  I also believe it is all about NATO...or more specifically it is about the US/NATO keeping Russia out of Europe.

                  Once Macedonia becomes a completely compliant American statelet (as of Oct 1 2018) the US and its western lackeys will focus their efforts on Serbia (and their dysfunctional relationship with Kosovo) using the Macedonian capitulation model as their blueprint.

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                  • Amphipolis
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1328

                    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post

                    PS - With the exception of Slovenia and maybe Lithuania, all former communist countries new to the EU are struggling and wish they could get out of the EU
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    Slovenia was the economic powerhouse of Yugoslavia. Doing ok as part of the EU wouldn't be a problem. But you can't polish a turd ... Hence Bulgaria, Romania, Greece etc.
                    This is not the status of former socialist countries in EU.
                    Here's GDP per capita (nominal) with Greece as refererence point (100), 2017 IMF data

                    Slovenia 127
                    Czech Rep 108
                    Estonia 106
                    Greece 100
                    Slovakia 95
                    Lithuania 90
                    Latvia 83
                    Hungary 83
                    Poland 74
                    Croatia 70
                    Romania 58
                    Bulgaria 43

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                    • Bill77
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4545

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                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                      • Vangelovski
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 8533

                        Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
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                        This is a case of "your arse hurts/my arse hurts".
                        If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                        The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                        • Phoenix
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4671

                          Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
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                          Fark me...its so typical of those cunts, they really don't stand or represent anything noble, all this talk about democracy and individual rights is a crock of shit...they will spin any outcome to suit their globalist narrative...even post Brexit, they were trying to stir the pot and call for a re-vote.

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                          • Bill77
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4545

                            Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                            Fark me...its so typical of those cunts, they really don't stand or represent anything noble, all this talk about democracy and individual rights is a crock of shit...they will spin any outcome to suit their globalist narrative...even post Brexit, they were trying to stir the pot and call for a re-vote.


                            Wasn't there previously a referendum in Macedonia regarding the introduction of Albanian authorities in heavy Ethnic Albanian populated areas (or something like that) where 97% voted against it but EU declared it a failure due to 47% cast a vote meaning not enough due to being under 50% turnout?

                            Just another case of hypocrisy we should remember.
                            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15660

                              Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
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                              Mathematical gold Bill.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                              • Liberator of Makedonija
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 1597

                                EU's treatment of Catalonia should be evidence enough for Macedonians that they are not what they say they are and that we will never be fully accepted into their little union.
                                I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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