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  • 777Bitola
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 103

    Albanians think Alexander was Albanian?

    The first time i heard this i thought it was a joke, but now they actually think he is Albanian.

    Its 37 seconds in this video called

    Things not to say to an Albanian.

    YouTube - Things you should never say to an Albanian
    Last edited by 777Bitola; 09-07-2009, 01:45 PM.
  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    #2
    It's hero worship to the extent that they just usurp the actual heroes of another country.For example Alexander is known as a god in egypt ra amnon.Also he is known as Iskander in many countries eg arab countries as it means alexander.If you say to them that he is Macedonian they will say yes but they will say that he is theirs.I think it's like them missapropriating our people what can we do??You know that other countries like people like Albania think mother theresa is an albanian.We know she was born in skopje she is a macedonian!
    george s.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • 777Bitola
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 103

      #3
      Originally posted by George S. View Post
      It's hero worship to the extent that they just usurp the actual heroes of another country.For example Alexander is known as a god in egypt ra amnon.Also he is known as Iskander in many countries eg arab countries as it means alexander.If you say to them that he is Macedonian they will say yes but they will say that he is theirs.I think it's like them missapropriating our people what can we do??You know that other countries like people like Albania think mother theresa is an albanian.We know she was born in skopje she is a macedonian!
      george s.
      Yes, but the Egyptians dont think Alexander is Egyptian. Greeks believe that Alexander was Greek, but before this i've never heard of Albanians believing this. This is the dumbest thing i've heard, do they even have any theories to support this? Besides made up siptar ones.

      As for Mother Teresa her mother was Albanian but her dad was Macedonian from what people think.

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        #4
        I don't know, the Albanians used to think "Bitola" meant "dove" in Albanian until someone showed them it came from Obitel (Monastery) in Old Macedonian. They are looking for an old identity to hang their hat on. Which is a shame.

        Mother Teresa was quite a manipulative deceiving woman apparently. Perfect for the church. (.... ouch) I can't even really claim her as a Macedonian national much less an ethnic Macedonian. But am happy to hear corroborating evidence.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          Mother Teresa was part Macedonian? I doubt it, but am willing to be proved wrong if evidence to the contrary exists.

          As for the assertions that Alexander is 'Albanian', lol, not even worth dignifying with an answer, they have been lucky enough to be given a free reign over rights to the history of Skenderbeg, even though Evliya Celebi, who carried out a detailed study of Albanian people, history, culture and language in the 17th century, fails to mention him.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Venom
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 445

            #6
            Albanians think that Alexander was Macedonian. Albanians also think that it's okay to procreate with their first cousins. I don't know, seems like this thing is a non issue.
            S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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            • Rogi
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2343

              #7
              I think their whole basis for claiming Alexander is via his mother Olympus... I think they get confused between the Illyrians (who they claim descent from) and the Molossians.

              Not really sure what they're on about. All baseless.

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                #8
                In answer to SOM mother teresais* Born: 27 August 1910
                * Birthplace: Skopje, Macedonia
                * Died: 5 September 1997
                * Best Known As: Humanitarian nun of Calcutta, called "The Saint of the Gutters"

                Name at birth: Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu source answers.com
                GEorge S.
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  There is a saying once asiptar is allways a siptar. *
                  mother teresa Born: 27 August 1910
                  * Birthplace: Skopje, Macedonia
                  * Died: 5 September 1997
                  * Best Known As: Humanitarian nun of Calcutta, called "The Saint of the Gutters"

                  Name at birth: Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu source answers.com
                  george S
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • George S.
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10116

                    #10
                    I'm from bitola & if the siptars lay claim to bitola there is nothing sacred any more.these people never cease as they act out their greater albania desires.Similar desires of the greeks with their megali idea.
                    George S.
                    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                    GOTSE DELCEV

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #11
                      Originally posted by George S. View Post
                      In answer to SOM mother teresais* Born: 27 August 1910
                      * Birthplace: Skopje, Macedonia
                      * Died: 5 September 1997
                      * Best Known As: Humanitarian nun of Calcutta, called "The Saint of the Gutters"

                      Name at birth: Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu source answers.com
                      GEorge S.
                      So are you claiming her as Macedonian George?
                      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13670

                        #12
                        Thanks George, but I am aware of where she was born, my question was in relation to what 777Bitola said regarding her father being Macedonian. I find it hard to believe and don't recall if anybody else has ever made the claim. If somebody has information to corroborate then enlighten us, otherwise, at the moment I can't help but find the suggestion of Teresa being of Macedonian origin as plausable as Alexander being of Albanian origin.


                        There is a saying once asiptar is allways a siptar.
                        How does that fit into the picture and what are you trying to imply with that sentence in relation to the discussion about Teresa?
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • George S.
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10116

                          #13
                          to daskalot to the extent that she was born in macedonia,but her father was an albanien.i don't like albaniens myself.
                          george s
                          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                          GOTSE DELCEV

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #14
                            Originally posted by George S. View Post
                            i don't like albaniens myself.
                            george s
                            I don't like generalisations ... but I do not like enemies of the Macedonian State as a rule. This can include Macedonians just as much as ethnic Albanians.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • George S.
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10116

                              #15
                              I better explain myself i Don't like the albanians in Macedonia who actually want to take away our homeland tatkovinata.I have driven past through albania to go to serbia to see my relatives in crna gora.While travelling most people seem to be helpfull & hospitable & are catholic & there is no mosque to be seen in albania.But in macedonia theres 2 mosques in a town.I don't hate people perse. I hate the things people do or if they are an enemy of the macedonian state.Definitely i have to agree with you it has been time & again our worst enemy is some of our own people sorry to say but it's a fact.Risto i beleive that i'm proud to be a macedonian.My father was saying that my grand father was fighting the ottomans in the old days with the chettas & he was captured & taken to albania & tortured & killed along with the others.
                              Thank you
                              George S.
                              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                              GOTSE DELCEV

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