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  • AMHRC
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    Greece Claims Ownership of 12 Apostles

    Greece claims ownership of Twelve Apostles in tourism promotion

    The Greeks consider themselves the founders of democracy and mathematics. Now they’ve taken credit for one of Australia’s most recognisable landmarks, the Twelve Apostles.



    The Greeks consider themselves the founders of democracy and mathematics. Now they've taken credit for one of Australia's most recognisable landmarks, the Twelve Apostles.

    Greece's national tourism agency has been caught out using the picturesque rock formation to depict the Greek coastline in its new international tourism campaign.

    The embarrassing blunder has been compounded by "preposterous" claims by the Greek tourism ministry that the use of the images are justified because constellations seen in the sky above the apostles on the video "carry Greek names".

    The controversy erupted after Australian astro-photographer Alex Cherney discovered that 15 seconds of footage from his award-winning time-lapse film Ocean Sky had been spliced without permission into an official Visit Greece tourism campaign video.

    In Gods, Myths, Heroes, the Greek tourism board uses the footage of the night sky moving over the Twelve Apostles to depict the birthplace of the ancient Greek goddess of love and beauty, Aphrodite.

    "Where Aphrodite, goddess of love, lust and kindness emerges from waves ... And when the day is done, the moon and the stars paint the sky in brilliant constellations named from Greek mythology by ancient sailors navigating their way from island to island across the broad sea. As I travelled through the Greek countryside ...," the English narration says.

    Mr Cherney was alerted to the copyright infringement via social media only days after Greek Tourism Minister Olga Kefalogianni launched the video at an international travel industry event.

    "My video has been seen nearly 2 million times online since 2011, won some awards, and been featured as NASA's astronomy picture of the day, so that's probably why it was recognised," he said.

    But when Mr Cherney contacted the director of Gods, Myths, Heroes, he was stunned to learn the Greek tourism agency had since acquired a licence for the footage and planned to keep using it.

    "The fact that they're showing the Twelve Apostles in a tourism video for Visit Greece is somewhat, you would say, preposterous," he said.

    It is not the first scandal associated with the $86,000 campaign video since its released in early November.

    A re-edit was required after it was revealed it included footage of the torch-lighting ceremony from the 1936 Berlin Olympics, shot by Adolf Hitler's favourite documentary filmmaker, Leni Riefenstahl.

    The controversy prompted the Greek tourism ministry to release a lengthy defence of the video. It said using a shot of the Australian coastline was a deliberate decision.

    A translation of the statement said: "That almost all the world, wherever you turn around your eyes, you will meet an idea, a name, that originated from Greece. Even the skies of Australia in the southern hemisphere, explains the artistic creator, when lift your eyes open, you will see stars and constellations that carry Greek names. The mythology of the sky at all latitudes and longitudes of the Earth is Greek."

    Mr Cherney said it was a farcical defence.

    Greek tourism agency EOT and Gods, Myths, Heroes director Andonis Theocharis Kioukas did not respond to a request for comment.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/greec...#ixzz3JBR2mMmt
  • AMHRC
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    Australia's iconic 12 Apostles landmark is Greek, apparently

    15th Nov 2014 12:16pm | By Editor

    If you want to see the wonders of Greece, go to Australia's Great Ocean Road.

    That's what a Greek tourism campaign would have you believe after using images of Victorian landmark the Twelve Apostles.

    The distinctive rock formation represents the Greece coast and the makers are bizarrely unapologetic saying most things originate from Greece.

    Australian astro-photographer Alex Cherney took exception to the unauthorised use of his footage from an award-winning time-lapse work called Ocean Sky.

    Visit Greece's tourism campaign video, Gods, Myths, Heroes, uses the Apostles as a representation of the birthplace of Aphrodite, the Greek goddess of love and beauty.

    The narrator says: "Where Aphrodite, goddess of love, lust and kindness emerges from waves ... And when the day is done, the moon and the stars paint the sky in brilliant constellations named from Greek mythology by ancient sailors navigating their way from island to island across the broad sea." And so on.

    Cherney found out about the campaign's use of his imagery via social media and says their use of an Australia landmark is "preposterous".

    "My video has been seen nearly 2 million times online since 2011, won some awards, and been featured as NASA's astronomy picture of the day, so that's probably why it was recognised," he is quoted in Fairfax newspapers.

    The campaign had previously had another hitch when it include d footage of the Olympic torch being lit at the 1936 games in Berlin. The footage used, and removed, was shot by Adolf Hitler's favourite documentarian.

    Greece tourism has since released a somewhat farcical explanation of its use of the 12 Apostles.

    "That almost all the world, wherever you turn around your eyes, you will meet an idea, a name, that originated from Greece," says the translation of the statement. "Even the skies of Australia in the southern hemisphere, explains the artistic creator, when lift your eyes open, you will see stars and constellations that carry Greek names. The mythology of the sky at all latitudes and longitudes of the Earth is Greek."

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    • AMHRC
      De-registered
      • Sep 2009
      • 919

      #3
      Has Greece just stolen the Twelve Apostles? Country's tourism board uses images of iconic landmark... because they claim Australian skies carry stars with Greek names!

      A new campaign video by the Greek Tourism Ministry used unlicensed footage of Australia's famous Twelve Apostles
      The Visit Greece video tells how Aphrodite, the goddess of love, was born from the waves as it pans over the Apostles in Australia's Southern Ocean
      'The mythology of the sky at all latitudes and longitudes of the Earth is Greek,' say the producers


      In an embarrassing case of plagiarism - or mistaken geography - the Greek Tourism Ministry has claimed Australia's most recognisable natural wonders, the Twelve Apostles, as its own.

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      • Amphipolis
        Banned
        • Aug 2014
        • 1328

        #4
        This is it.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #5
          Typical of the 'Greek Longbow Paradigm', that apparently makes perfect 'sense' of the utterly nonsensical...

          The greeks should've made specific mention of Apollo Bay, on the Great Ocean Road and the many 'greek' owned fis 'n' tsip shops along the 200+ km length of the Great Ocean Road to further their 'claims' to world wide ownership of everything.

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          • Gocka
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            • Dec 2012
            • 2306

            #6
            I was having a laugh with a fellow at work last week about Greeks claiming everything under the sun. We were talking about football and it came up that football originates in Scotland. I said Scotland? No way, your way off, it originated in ancient Greece. For a second he thought I was serious, then I said, yup Greece, did you know they also invented grass, the color green, and even oxygen, there was no air on earth until the Greeks invented it.

            They milk that ancient teat for all its worth.

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            • Nikolaj
              Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 389

              #7
              Why am I not surprised to see this? That's Greece for you though.

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                #8
                This is a good thing. It exposes to the rest of the world how severely demented and idiotic the official position of Greece is on certain subjects.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  There is a saying going over the top well being stupid has its rewards.What ytou sow so shall you reap.
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • Constellation
                    Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 217

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gocka View Post
                    I was having a laugh with a fellow at work last week about Greeks claiming everything under the sun. We were talking about football and it came up that football originates in Scotland. I said Scotland? No way, your way off, it originated in ancient Greece. For a second he thought I was serious, then I said, yup Greece, did you know they also invented grass, the color green, and even oxygen, there was no air on earth until the Greeks invented it.

                    They milk that ancient teat for all its worth.
                    It is all Greek, my friend.

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                    • spitfire
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                      • Aug 2014
                      • 868

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                      Ah, what a shame. They could have used firiplaka beach in Milos or tis grias to pidima in Andros instead .
                      Somebody was lazy I think.





                      With all those thousand of kilometres of beaches they could have chosen everything they wished.

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                      • George S.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10116

                        #12
                        they couldve learned a lesson or two from the apostles themselves.The meek shall inherit the greek beaches.Or they'll never surrender to their ad dept they will fight them on the beaches.
                        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                        GOTSE DELCEV

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                        • sydney
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 390

                          #13
                          This is hilarious. What morons to try and defend the use of the footage. Here in Australia, a Greek lady even thought the telco Optus was Greek because 'it sounds Greek'.

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                          • Dejan
                            Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 589

                            #14
                            As a collective, these people are seriously deranged
                            You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

                            A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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                            • Constellation
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                              • Jul 2014
                              • 217

                              #15
                              The word "apostle" derives from Greek, so the twelve apostles were Greek!

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