Was the Macedonian name taboo in Greece prior to the 1980s?

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  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    • Apr 2014
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    Was the Macedonian name taboo in Greece prior to the 1980s?

    Generally accepted amongst Macedonians that the names 'Macedonia', 'Macedonian' and 'Macedonians' were taboo in Greece from the partition to around the 1980s. I have found a few sources though that show the name appearing in newspapers, for the names of organisations etc. Even references to Alexander and Philip.

    Starting this thread to really look into how true this statement is and a place to collate sources.

    From personal experience, many Macedonian-Australians claim that prior to the early 90s, Greek-Australians would say there is no such thing as Macedonia or the Macedonians. They didn't claim Macedonia or Macedonians were Greek, they just claimed they flat out didn't exist. But even this is challenged by the Hellenophilic Macedonian club in Melbourne that was formed in the 1960s (I believe) and the Greek-backed Alexander the Great football club founded in 1958.
    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.
  • Liberator of Makedonija
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    • Apr 2014
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    #2
    1968 issue of the 'Makedonia' newspaper printed in Solun, depicting both Alexander the Great and Filip II.


    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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    • Liberator of Makedonija
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      • Apr 2014
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      #3
      The Pan-Macedonian Association, founded in the USA in 1947.

      I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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      • Liberator of Makedonija
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        • Apr 2014
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        #4
        The Alexander Soccer Club, founded in Melbourne in 1958.

        I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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        • Liberator of Makedonija
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          • Apr 2014
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          #5
          According to English wikipedia. Greece established the Governate-General of Macedonia in 1912 and renamed it to the Governate-General of Northern Greece in the 1920s and wasn't referred to as Macedonia again until 1988.

          I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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          • Liberator of Makedonija
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            • Apr 2014
            • 1596

            #6
            Alexander the Great depicted in a report compiled by the Club of Scholars from Macedonia in 1932.



            Alexander the Great and Filip II depicted in a 1940 issue of the Solun-based newspaper, 'Makedonia'

            I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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            • Risto the Great
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              • Sep 2008
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              #7
              The Greeks had been trying to steal Macedonia since way before that. Many recollections of us older guys are vivid. Greeks simply said there was no such thing as Macedonia and Macedonians back in the 1980's (and earlier). Greeks have fought for Macedonia to be Greece. Macedonians fought for Macedonia to be Macedonia. Plain and simple stuff. What particularly interests you about this beyond the obvious?
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Bill77
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                • Oct 2009
                • 4545

                #8
                Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
                The Alexander Soccer Club, founded in Melbourne in 1958.

                Who always claimed to be a"Greek" club, not a Macedonian club. Also noticed the Greek flag in that emblem? so where did the star of Vergina go? or to be more accurate and easier for you, when did they start implementing the symbol? here's your homework for today.
                Last edited by Bill77; 04-18-2018, 03:59 AM.
                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                • Liberator of Makedonija
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                  • Apr 2014
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  The Greeks had been trying to steal Macedonia since way before that. Many recollections of us older guys are vivid. Greeks simply said there was no such thing as Macedonia and Macedonians back in the 1980's (and earlier). Greeks have fought for Macedonia to be Greece. Macedonians fought for Macedonia to be Macedonia. Plain and simple stuff. What particularly interests you about this beyond the obvious?
                  Because we always use the argument they never used the term Macedonia or Macedonians until the 1980s but there's evidence against this. They claimed our national figures before this period.
                  I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                  • Liberator of Makedonija
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                    Who always claimed to be a"Greek" club, not a Macedonian club. Also noticed the Greek flag in that emblem? so where did the star of Vergina go? or to be more accurate and easier for you, when did they start implementing the symbol? here's your homework for today.
                    The founders were from Lerin and I believe they were associated with the Greek Macedonian Social Club.

                    They never implemented the sun in their logo, their new logo has it covered up.
                    I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                    • Risto the Great
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
                      Because we always use the argument they never used the term Macedonia or Macedonians until the 1980s but there's evidence against this. They claimed our national figures before this period.
                      They didn't. They hated the name for a long time.
                      They even renamed their new territories a few times in line with their propaganda.

                      Are you Greek? I can't remember.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Bill77
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 4545

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
                        The founders were from Lerin and I believe they were associated with the Greek Macedonian Social Club.

                        They never implemented the sun in their logo, their new logo has it covered up.
                        Big problem is..... If You would have asked them, or their descendants today, they would say "Florina"
                        Last edited by Bill77; 04-18-2018, 04:54 AM.
                        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                        • Liberator of Makedonija
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                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1596

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                          They didn't. They hated the name for a long time.
                          They even renamed their new territories a few times in line with their propaganda.

                          Are you Greek? I can't remember.
                          No I'm Macedonian. I think Amphipolis is the only Greek user still active here.

                          They didn't but then what about the stuff I've posted here? Clearly some were.
                          I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                          • Liberator of Makedonija
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                            • Apr 2014
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                            Big problem is..... If You would have asked them, or their descendants today, they would say "Florina"
                            Yeah of course, I'm saying Lerin because that's its real name.

                            What do you make of the founders of the club? I know they used to have a big rivalry (still do) with South Melbourne Hellas, apparently they were ostracised from much of the Greek community at the time.
                            I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                            • tchaiku
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                              • Nov 2016
                              • 786

                              #15
                              No ... why would it be?

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