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Epirot 09-10-2012 07:15 AM

[QUOTE=George S.;133589]epirot what you claim you respect us for what do you respect us?[/QUOTE]

George,

Your insults lessen my interest to reply toward your comments. I've said repeatedly that Albanians respect stand on the fact they recognize Macedonia's sovereignty. What else do you expect from them? To kneel to you? They have been integrated into Macedonia's institutions. End of the story.

P.S: Don't expect more replies from me because you've ruined the basis of a civilized dialogue!

George S. 09-10-2012 09:40 AM

In all my time from shiptars that have ever come on this forum you take the cake for stupidity.
Didnt the albanians just insult us macedonians by building places of rememberance for the uck.Come on don't bs to me .Also you are telling me you respect me.How about all the killings that have done to civilians.Also albanians coming out as the victim.Spare me the bs.This is all about respect & recociliation??
Do you know the story that albanians beleive in a greater albania & linking with kosovo.
What about respect for one's flag why are we flying your double headed eagle all the time.Why are we wanting seperatist language,special rights & priveleges way above the ordinary citizens.Wanting seperate passports in albanian.Also not wanting to learn macedonian at all only shiptar at school.That is real respect eh,you are a fucking shiptar liar.Your brain is on holiday when you say that the shiptars are nothing more than example of respect.The last thing anyone that has not shown is respect or actually a lot of respect.Your pensioner ali ahmeti the terrorist ,pensioner can't be bothered speaking macedonian because he respects us so much he has an intrepreter.
Epirot by now the whole forum should have turned on you.You should read the whole thread & you will see that over time how macedonia's sovereignity has been ripped to shreads by the disrespectfull shiptars who do not beleive in a macedonian homeland.The shiptars like you are deceving themselves with claims like you show respect i have nothing but dislike & hate for shiptars who think like you.If albania is so good for you why don't you all go back to it.Also since when minorities have rights way above the normal citizens.If it was upto me i would boot the lot of you out.But first you have shown disrespect by insulting us you have to booted from this forum.:001_tt1::001_tt1::6::hammer:
Sometimes shiptars think they are so superier & eloquent that they forget they have inferiority complexexes.You have a habit of denial of reality.THat's why you can't have civil discussion as you are on insult mode.

Niko777 09-10-2012 05:21 PM

Today in Skopje, instead of the illegal Albanian names being removed from the schools, the [B]school authorities[/B] took it up a notch and [B]destroyed[/B] the bust of Macedonian writer Rajko Zhinzifov in the school yard. I guess we can expect a new statue of the Albanian terrorist whose name is written on the school signage.

Niko777 09-10-2012 05:37 PM

Also in the news today, Debar's Macedonian church was robbed and vandalized. The Albanians managed to steal several icons, the oldest one dating from 1740.

makedonche 09-10-2012 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;133603]Also in the news today, Debar's Macedonian church was robbed and vandalized. The Albanians managed to steal several icons, the oldest one dating from 1740.[/QUOTE]

Niko77
Are there any police in Macedonia?..........better still are there any Macedonians in Macedonia?

Niko777 09-10-2012 06:39 PM

[QUOTE=makedonche;133604]Niko77
Are there any police in Macedonia?..........better still are there any Macedonians in Macedonia?[/QUOTE]

Not sure about the police.

As for Macedonians.... they will spend countless hours arguing in DPMNE vs SDSM debates, they will go out in the streets protesting against each other for their political parties. Yet you will never see a Macedonian argue with an Albanian, or protest against the atrocities they are committing. Albanians have been left to do what ever they want.

[B]It doesn't matter who is in power, Gruevski or Crvenkovski, it's the Albanians who are running the country. [/B]

But don't worry, our politicians will keep Macedonians distracted with their stupid games. Gruevski will build a statue of a warrior on horse, while the opposition will call for name changes for Greece. Meanwhile our brilliant historians and scientists are too busy linking the Macedonian language to the people of 25,000 BC. And while Macedonians are being distracted with all this BS, the Albanians were able to quietly take over the country... now they have taken over our children's schools!!!

So what does the government do in its latest attempt to distract everyone? Organize a huge concert in Skopje (for September 8) where half of the singers were from Serbia btw. And you know what, it worked. 60,000 Macedonians gathered to celebrate, you can all see the videos on Youtube. Yet when the 5 Macedonians were massacred by the Albanians, they couldn't get a crowd of 60 to come out and protest.

Vangelovski 09-10-2012 06:43 PM

Epirot,

No one has any problems with civil equality, but that is not what is happening in Macedonia. Under the Framework Agreement, Albanians have been provided with special privileges, not rights. For example, under the Framework Agreement's Badinter principle (which is now a constitutional provision), Albanian parliamentarians are able to veto parliamentary decisions. This effectively provides individual Albanians with a greater vote than any other individual in Macedonia. In fact, if Albanians are 25 per cent of the population, their collective vote is worth more than the other 75 per cent. On an individual level, this would equate to one Albanian vote being worth more than three Macedonian votes.

This is not civil equality. This is a racist ideology of Albanian superiority and a claim to the Macedonian state.

Risto the Great 09-10-2012 07:33 PM

Epirot has not replied to me, nor will he reply to you Vangelovski I suspect.
It is an Albanian tradition to deny the obvious about this issue.

makedonche 09-10-2012 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;133605]Not sure about the police.

As for Macedonians.... they will spend countless hours arguing in DPMNE vs SDSM debates, they will go out in the streets protesting against each other for their political parties. Yet you will never see a Macedonian argue with an Albanian, or protest against the atrocities they are committing. Albanians have been left to do what ever they want.

[B]It doesn't matter who is in power, Gruevski or Crvenkovski, it's the Albanians who are running the country. [/B]

But don't worry, our politicians will keep Macedonians distracted with their stupid games. Gruevski will build a statue of a warrior on horse, while the opposition will call for name changes for Greece. Meanwhile our brilliant historians and scientists are too busy linking the Macedonian language to the people of 25,000 BC. And while Macedonians are being distracted with all this BS, the Albanians were able to quietly take over the country... now they have taken over our children's schools!!!

So what does the government do in its latest attempt to distract everyone? Organize a huge concert in Skopje (for September 8) where half of the singers were from Serbia btw. And you know what, it worked. 60,000 Macedonians gathered to celebrate, you can all see the videos on Youtube. Yet when the 5 Macedonians were massacred by the Albanians, they couldn't get a crowd of 60 to come out and protest.[/QUOTE]

Niko77
Thanks for that candid assesment, I can't help but agree with you. I suppose deep in my heart of hearts I was expecting a miracle, where a Macedonian or a collection of Macedonians could also see what you have described and actually take some steps towards reversing the process........any steps! I fear the process is beyond reversal, given Macedonians would be starting so far behind the starting line.....but it would have been comforting knowing somebody actually gave a shit and was prepared to do something about it......I live in hope, for reality is unacceptable.

makedonche 09-10-2012 08:36 PM

RTG

[QUOTE]It is an Albanian tradition to deny the obvious about this issue.
[/QUOTE]

A common trait share by the platesmashing southerners........although they are probably of the same genome anyway! :stupid:


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