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Risto the Great 09-17-2012 10:09 PM

Niko, I think it is increasingly apparent they want Macedonia more than Macedonians do.

George S. 09-17-2012 10:42 PM

you know they probably have a better idea of how to put macedonia to good use & link up for a greater albania with kosovo.Might not be such a bad idea if we just accept second fiddle for a change.You know that's really teaching us a valuable lesson when we become a minority is that we will learn to ask for rights & priveleges like they did,that will depend solely on ourselves.

Risto the Great 09-17-2012 10:52 PM

Soon they will be saying "vidi kolku itri se" about the ethnic Albanians and then trying to mix in their circles. Just like they used to do with the Serbs. It is pitiful.

makedonche 09-17-2012 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;133827]Soon they will be saying "vidi kolku itri se" about the ethnic Albanians and then trying to mix in their circles. Just like they used to do with the Serbs. It is pitiful.[/QUOTE]

RTG
Pitiful indeed.....that's putting it mildly. It begs the question "what would it take for Macedonians to want their country more than outsiders do?"

MKPrilep 09-18-2012 03:55 AM

[QUOTE]Soon they will be saying "vidi kolku itri se"[/QUOTE]

za zal, ama taka e vistina.
Everyone in Prilep told me how hard-working and smart
people the albanians are.
Although you find now many mixed marriages in Prilep.
Always a macedonian man and an albanian woman.

MKPrilep 09-18-2012 03:57 AM

always the same, small village, huge mosque.
really wonder how they make this.
This one is in mavrovo / rostusa.

[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/mavrovoirostua.jpg/][IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img688/3612/mavrovoirostua.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Solun 09-18-2012 07:12 AM

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;133843]always the same, small village, huge mosque.
really wonder how they make this.
This one is in mavrovo / rostusa.

[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/mavrovoirostua.jpg/][IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img688/3612/mavrovoirostua.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

I thought those in Rostuse were Macedonian Muslims

Macedonian Sun 09-18-2012 10:40 AM

Currently in Maco atm and am disgusted to report that just recently high school in the cair district of Skopje has changed the name of the school from a Macedonian to an Albanian name. Five minutes ago a news report stated that the government ' nema sila ' to change the name back!

What level of bullshit has our country descended into to allow this kind of shit to happen? How long before the siptars take the west and the rest is sold off to our kind neighbours.

As a visitor here from oz it doesn't look good to me, people are genrerally quite negative about everything and the albanian issue seems a forgone conclusion. Any Macedonian nationals got an opinion on the general attitude this issue?

Vangelovski 09-18-2012 04:01 PM

I think that the most disturbing part of this story is that Macedonian Muslims are sending their children to Albanian-language schools.

[B]Parents, community officials protest education ruling[/B]
17/09/2012

A disagreement over what language should be used in a school in southwestern Macedonia is causing parents of 20 children to demand that their elementary education be completed in Albania or Kosovo.

The dispute at the Goce Delchev School in Struga involves children from the nearby village of Podgorci. They have been studying in mixed classes from first to fourth grade in Albanian.

The classes are considered illegal by the state because Struga officials formed them without approval of the ministry of education. A law requires elementary classes to have at least 24 students.

Struga officials funded the classes out of the municipal budget for the last three years while promising parents a resolution to the problem, some parents said. But the state announced the students will not receive diplomas at the end of the school year.

The parents protested this month, blocking the entrance to the government building in Struga.

"I have a nephew who is supposed to attend fifth grade, but he just stays at home, because we don't know what to do." Nedzmedin Dervishovski told [I]SETimes[/I].

Parents say if the problem is not going to be solved, they will ask the governments in Pristina and Tirana if their children can continue their schooling there.

"We are Albanians and that is the reason why we let our children to study in Albanian," parent Emir Zuberi told [I]SETimes[/I].

"We call upon the government of Albania and Kosovo, as well as all the relevant institutions in Macedonia, to engage themselves to solve this problem, in order three studying years to not be lost," parent Semrije Murtazoska told [I]SETimes[/I].

Murtazovska also said that they are disappointed by the mayor of Struga, by the former and present ministers, and vice ministers of education for what they called false promises to solve the issue years ago.

Struga Mayor Ramiz Merko denied the accusations of the parents.

"Although first we got an approval from the Ministry of Education, then the politicians got involved, the previous consent was withdrawn," Merko said. "Then all the problems started. I will ask the politicians not to get involved in this. Behind the parents' protest, political parties are hidden, which don't want the children to study in Albanian."

Macedonia's vice minister of education, Safet Neziri, told [I]SETimes[/I] that officials are trying to find a solution.

"The reality is that although these children went to school for the past few years, they were out of the education system of Macedonia," he said. "We are trying to put them in the educational system by giving them documents for finished school, from the school where the lectures are already being held in Albanian."

"And I would ask all of the ones who work in the educational system, to not abuse these children on a daily basis, for political purposes," Neziri said.

Vedat Kolonja, 55, of Struga, told [I]SETimes[/I] that the children are victims of politics and politicians.

"If I want to learn German, who is there to ban me that right?" she asked. "They should leave the children study in a language they want. In the 21st century not to respect the fundamental natural rights of citizens is inhuman."

The parents said they will submit a complaint to the International Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. Macedonia officials, meanwhile, are threatening to fine the parents up to 2,000 for allowing their children to take classes deemed illegal by the state.

Niko777 09-18-2012 04:09 PM

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;133843]always the same, small village, huge mosque.
really wonder how they make this.
This one is in mavrovo / rostusa.

[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/mavrovoirostua.jpg/][IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img688/3612/mavrovoirostua.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]

If i'm not mistaken, that is the view seen from the Bigorski monastery


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