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greek 05-01-2014 01:38 AM

This is simply another example of your hypocrisy.
Pontian Greeks who have been Greek in language & culture for 2500 years are not Greek but Turkish.
2.4 Million Greek Macedonians are what??
Your people??
Please!!
But of course Albanians should NOT have full rights in FYROM...why not...not their country;right??
Don't you blokes advocate for Macedonian minority rights in Greece ( & everywhere else); why not Albanian minority rights in FYROM.
Albanians have their own national narrative like everyone else in the Balkans....descendant from Illyrians/Thracians... and been there longer than the Slavic speakers.
Now I am not saying that it is 100 % true ...I don't know whether its true or not.
But why shouldn't they have their own story to tell....God knows you do...as us Greeks do.

greek 05-01-2014 01:40 AM

Macedonians who are culturally & linguistically Greek.

greek 05-01-2014 02:06 AM

[QUOTE=makedonche;149780]So Albert Einstien, what other Macedonians are in Greece?[/QUOTE]
Macedonians who are culturally & linguistically Greek.
Cheers,
Al

greek 05-01-2014 02:14 AM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;149745]I am sure it will.[/QUOTE]
Hey Risto...I tell you what.
The Albanians will secede in the near future; that's for sure.
Let them go with the other Turks you have there.
Serbs & Bosniacks etc may want to go to...so that leaves about 1.3 million tops in a more condensed country.
That lot should join Greece as the Province of ''Northern Macedonia''.....follow so far.
You keep your language but learn Greek as a 2nd language...the rest of Greece has a choice to learn any 2nd language they choose including yours.
Keep your church & your traditions too.
You will have access to beautiful Aegean Macedonia and catch up with old relatives etc.
You will find however that you are mistaken about how Greek our Macedonia is but doesn't mater...we will be country men now.
You can then rightfully claim all things belonging to the Greek state i.e. history.
As far as ancient Macedonian history... we may never agree on that...so what!!

Risto the Great 05-01-2014 04:42 AM

[QUOTE=greek;149783]This is simply another example of your hypocrisy.
Pontian Greeks who have been Greek in language & culture for 2500 years are not Greek but Turkish.
2.4 Million Greek Macedonians are what??[/QUOTE]
I would say they are Greek at best.
We don't really know what they were other than being christians.
But they definitely were Turkish nationals.
I didn't call them Turks.

Sweet Sixteen 05-01-2014 04:47 AM

I wanted to ask before. What is a "Turkish national" exactly? Do you include yourself or me in the definition?

Sweet Sixteen 05-01-2014 05:01 AM

[QUOTE=greek;149786]Hey Risto...I tell you what.
The Albanians will secede in the near future; that's for sure.
Let them go with the other Turks you have there.
Serbs & Bosniacks etc may want to go to...so that leaves about 1.3 million tops in a more condensed country.
That lot should join Greece as the Province of ''Northern Macedonia''.....follow so far.
You keep your language but learn Greek as a 2nd language...the rest of Greece has a choice to learn any 2nd language they choose including yours.
Keep your church & your traditions too.
You will have access to beautiful Aegean Macedonia and catch up with old relatives etc.
You will find however that you are mistaken about how Greek our Macedonia is but doesn't mater...we will be country men now.
You can then rightfully claim all things belonging to the Greek state i.e. history.
As far as ancient Macedonian history... we may never agree on that...so what!![/QUOTE]

Well, don't hurry to accept and embrace each other, as this is not the Greek position.

Vangelovski 05-01-2014 05:17 AM

Greek,

Any more racist or derogatory language and your gone. This is your last warning. You will ONLY use the terms Macedonia and Macedonian. No ifs or buts.

Redsun 05-01-2014 06:57 AM

Greek - "Don't you blokes advocate for Macedonian rights in Greece"?

...Macedonia

Greek - "Why not Albanian minority rights in FYROM"

...You believe they don't have rights?


How is the situation in what you refer to as "FYROM" and the situation in Aegean Macedonia in any way comparable??? What goes on in your head to give you the belief that you should or could make a comparison.

The problem with your illogical comparison is that...

The Greek army violently removed the rights of the Macedonians in Aegean Macedonia.

The Macedonians have never taken anything from the Albanians, we gave them everything.

You call yourself Greek just like the Greeks in the army that victimized innocent Macedonians, that took their rights from them.

...And you believe you can tell people who should and who should not have rights.

Can you see your Bias,

Who kind of person would make such an unrelated uneducated comparison?

You know rights?

Redsun 05-01-2014 07:06 AM

You keep your language but learn Greek as a 2nd language...the rest of Greece has a choice to learn any 2nd language they choose including yours.
Keep your church & your traditions too.

You think this should be...
What goes on in your head buddy, you are one lost puppy "You keep your language but learn Greek as a 2nd language".
Use logic, please use your brain. Which country at this time 2014 would learn Greek as a second language? Not even the poorest countries in the world. Wouldn't the Macedonians want to learn English for trade and Administration, Greek can only get you so far in the modern world. Jump out of the little pond you are in and open your eyes.


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