they allready handed ownership a long time ago by being disinterested.the albanians have romped it in as they say.More of the same until there is nothing left.

RTG
I wonder if it's the fear that this is actually happening and nobody there gives a shit, making it difficult to pass comments without being offensive or derogatory towards them, for what's happening?
As you can see I clearly have no issues with branding them useless and cowardly .....and those are there good points! For fu%#s sake when will they stand up? when the gun is pointed at their heads and they have to then hand over everything?:angry:

[QUOTE=lavce pelagonski;129099]This is what is happening in my village:

New mosque causes ethnic rift in southwest Macedonia

11/06/2012

Plans by an Islamic community to build a new mosque in southwest Macedonia is causing an ethnic rift.

By Goran Trajkov for Southeast European Times in Skopje -- 11/06/12

A village mosque that is to be built in Lazec, near Bitola, in southwestern Macedonia, has been creating tension for years in the ethnically mixed village, where 120 Macedonians and 80 Albanians live. The two groups cannot agree on the location of the new mosque.
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If the tables were turned and 80 Macedonians wanted to build a church in a village where there were 120 Albanians, would they be allowed?

We all known the answer to that question....

On another note, my parents flew in last night to Skopje from Istanbul.... on the flight, there were 6 Macedonians, 2 Asians, 2 blacks, and the rest shiptari.

My folks just left tonight there are at least 30-40 Macedonians on the plain.

[QUOTE=makedonche;129203]RTG
I wonder if it's the fear that this is actually happening and nobody there gives a shit, making it difficult to pass comments without being offensive or derogatory towards them, for what's happening?
As you can see I clearly have no issues with branding them useless and cowardly .....and those are there good points! For fu%#s sake when will they stand up? when the gun is pointed at their heads and they have to then hand over everything?:angry:[/QUOTE]

They lost the battle and they are losing the war.
I get the feeling the politicians know they are on a sinking ship so are raping the country before it sinks.

eh lugje, gledate kolku brzo se siptarite.
pred nekolku nedeli prv pat staviv slika od ova dzamija.
i sega e gotova.
a vo prilep uste ja gradat novata crka (so e mnogu pomala) i ke
ja gradat uste 10 godini.
isto nekni pominav vo bitola i nemase ni eden coek so
rabotise na novata golema crkva.
za zal, ama zatoa ovie se posilni od nas.
sam sme vinovni. nikoj drug.

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look at the way they behave .YOu got zamija after jamia being built some more than one does anyone give shit no.Has anyone tried to complain or stop it ?no.

Honestly, if Macedonians do not want to take initiative or take control of their country, and if the government is letting Albanians do what ever they want, and if the Macedonians are not complaining, not protesting, and are not bothered by this, do we have a right to blame the Albanians?

The Albanians have tested us and they have seen that we're not capable of doing anything which is why they will continue to grow and build and expand while Macedonians in the country will just disappear in their shadows...

When one comes to believe and accept a possible scenario as being their eventual reality , then the likelihood of that particular scenario coming to fruition is all but certain

It is now becoming ever more hard to find evidence to support that the idea of a "Macedonia for the Macedonians" still exists politically or ideologically within RoM, rather such events as noted above, and particularly the actions of government at all levels, can be held as testament to suggest that this founding idea has now been essentially amended to the affect of "a Macedonia for the Balkans".

As such, when one is treated as less than a minority within their own supposed nation state, what incentive is there to remain in that state let alone pledge their allegiance to it, especially when they could be offered the same status, if not better, in another state which offers a higher standard of living, education, and opportunity for wealth.

When an autonomous government continually acts in accordance with, and promotes amongst the citizens the perception that they should not consider themselves equal but a lesser species in comparison to all other people and nations, and that they are in fact not in control of their own destiny but merely bystanders who should base their existence on individual capitalisation on the actions of others as they unfold, then what kind of national, spiritual and ethnical progress is possible to manifest amongst people brought up in a silo of this nature?

The liberty so dearly sought after by our forefathers, which was so easily bestowed upon the citizens of RoM, is becoming ever more difficult to justify, the only question that remains is why can't Macedonians simply understand each other and work together towards a mutually beneficial goal which could be agreed to be valued more than that of any individual.