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The LION will ROAR 03-11-2012 08:51 PM

[B]Tепачите на тинејџерите пред „Ентернет“ активисти на ДПА, тврдат медиуми
11.03.2012 - 17:45 |[/B]

Македонија

Петмината насилници кои полиција ги уапси поради физички напад врз малолетници во интернет кафе во скопската населба Дебар маало се активисти и членови на Демократската партија на Албанците, објавија дел од медиумите

Групата, составена од В.Ј. (17) од Глумово, И.С.(20) и Е.С. (19) од Крушопек, Е.В. (21) од Грчец и Р.А. (22) од Скопје вчера околу 17 часот без каква било причина ги нападнала А.Г. (16) и двајцата негови другари Д.Д. (17) и А.С. (17) пред интернет кафето „Ентернет“ на ул. „Орце Николов“.

Насилниците беа упасени од полицијата по нападот пред северната трибина на Градскиот стадион и Подоцна препознаени од нападнатите момчиња, информираат од полицијата.

Сите членови на групата, освен Е.С., имаат криминални досиеја. Пријавувани се за кражби, тешки кражби, разбојништва, насилства и друго
[url]http://www.sitel.com.mk/dnevnik/makedonija/tepachite-na-tinejdzerite-pred-%E2%80%9Eenternet%E2%80%9C-aktivisti-na-dpa-tvrdat-mediumi[/url]

Google translator
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[B]The five thugs who police arrested for assault on minors in internet cafe in Skopje settlement Debar neighborhood are activists and members of the Democratic Party of Albanians,

All group members except E.S. have criminal records. Reported for thefts, robberies, robbery, violence, etc.[/B]

Bugi 03-11-2012 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;122600]
Imagine if those 150,000 Kosovars weren't given citizenship as well. What an unnatural situation that will precipitate an inevitable war in the future.[/QUOTE]


What 150,000 Kosovars?
Kosovo albanians have a higher birth rate than albanians in Macedonia,if 150,000 came in Macedonia,macedonians would have been a minority already.

if you dont accept the 2002 census,look at the one in 1994,albanians made 22% of the population or 440,000 people!

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Onur;122607]Thats true and at least half of the other minority children are being forced to choose Albanian language program. I`ve met two school teacher on facebook and thats what the said to me. One was from Debar, other was from Skopje. They said that even if Turkish population is higher on some towns, districts, there are no Turkish language programs and when they speak about this issue with Albanian mayors or politicians from Skopje, they are being ridiculed by them and eventually half of the children are getting educated in Albanian and other half in Macedonian[/QUOTE]

you are wrong my friend.there are not turks in Debar region!
there are only albanians and torbesh-slavic muslims-some of which think they are turks-95% of them dont know turkish!


[QUOTE=Onur;122607]This stupid lie has been told by 4-5 different Albanians here before. Apparently, this lie has been taught to Albanian people. The number of people who came to Turkey was ~250.000 at most and if all of them was Albanians then how come Turkish population in Macedonia has been dropped by 50% and Albanian population continued to increase in 1960s censuses?[/QUOTE]

the albanians in certain periods declared to be turks,thats why turks decreased in number because they werent real turks!
even today it is hard to find a real turk in Macedonia,they all have something albanian or torbesh in them,in Radovish region for example,many roma declare to be turks!

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Brian;122621][B][COLOR="Navy"]Of course you "don't get it", you have no respect for anything other than something Albanian. [/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]When you can understand NOT Albanian DOES NOT mean ethnic Macedonian then you will show some signs of civility.

In any event the Albanian flag is the state flag of another country and for this reason CANNOT be legally used in ANY official capacity for ANY other country than Albania so you cannot hang it off another country's state institutions and claim it represents your ethnicity - it is NOT JUST an ethnic Albanian flag. [/COLOR][COLOR="Navy"]Again you have no respect.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

so before you knew about the Vergina sun-that was found in the 1970's,the ethnic macedonians didint have a national flag?:mellow:

Croats in Bosnia are about 20%-they are a official nation-NOT minority in the country
Serbs are 30%-official constitutional national element in Bosnia

so how come Macedonia cant become the country of the macedonian and albanian people?

I think you realize the double standards!

EgejskaMakedonia 03-11-2012 09:29 PM

[QUOTE=Bugi;122667]What 150,000 Kosovars?
Kosovo albanians have a higher birth rate than albanians in Macedonia,if 150,000 came in Macedonia,macedonians would have been a minority already.

if you dont accept the 2002 census,look at the one in 1994,albanians made 22% of the population or 440,000 people![/QUOTE]

Obviously you have no idea about the 150,000+ Kosovo refugees that were granted asylum in Macedonia during 1999. Very few have returned to Kosovo since, yet claim they have been in Macedonia for centuries (people like you).

Fancy that, a nation gives you homes, food, a place to live during a war with the serbs, and in turn you terrorise Macedonian villages and people, bash and beat Macedonian civilians and distance yourselves from anything and everything to do with Macedonia. If someone came to my house and disrespected it, I'd throw them out. That is what the Macedonian government really needs to consider if this trend continues. It may actually save lives and prevent an armed conflict.

How long will these constant attacks on Macedonian children and commuters go on before a stand is taken and people declare that enough is enough.

It seems that the Albanians that defend these pathetic attackers justify this uncivilised behaviour with the 'rights call.' Why is it so hard to understand that you've been granted far more prestigious rights than any other minority throughout the Balkans. Why don't you mention the Macedonian minority in Albania and their 'equal' treatment? People like you always want to take, yet are unwilling to give in any situation.

How you can defend people using poles/bats or any other weapon to hit children and innocent bystanders is beyond me. If ethnic Macedonians were the perpetrators, there would be protest after protest, and the Albanian minority would once again cry foul play whilst plotting their 'revenge.' But the moment an Albanian is the attacker, they are praised as some kind of freedom fighter who attacked children to show how oppressed they are.

Do you condone this violence? If they are Albanian, does that somehow make them innocent or immune from such acts of crime?
If your answer to the later is 'yes,' then I guess you have a lot in common with the DPMNE government.

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:31 PM

The 'next time' would be finished before it ever started,Milosevic made that bubu,If you really care about the country of Macedonia you should know that with such actions the only losers will be the macedonians.

Just keep telling youreself that the albanians are under 20%,if you want more or have questions,be free to ask!

HERE ARE SOME OF THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS FROM THE MACEDONIAN STATISTICS DEPARTMENT

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/MKD_muni_nonn%28Dolneni%29.png[/IMG]

Долнени

[B]2002-13.568 вкупно население

Македонци-4.871
Албанци-3.616
Турци-2.597
Босанци-2.380[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

37/97
42/89
41/77


Албанци

106/20
85/23
88/17


Турци

32/10
38/11
37/18


Босанци

12/5
10/11
13/12

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/MKD_muni_nonn%28caska%29.png[/IMG]

Чашка

[B]2002-7.673 вкупно население

Македонци-4.395
Албанци-2.703
Турци-391[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

36/70
37/67
37/66


Албанци

49/18
95/14
109/12

Турци

2/1
0/3
6/1


[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/MKD_muni_nonn%28Kumanovo%29.png[/IMG]

Куманово

[B]2002-105.484 вкупно население

Македонци-63.746 60,4%
Албанци-27.290 25,9%
Срби-9.062 8,6%
Роми-4.256 4,0%[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010


Македонци

658/704
726/691
703/720


Албанци

443/160
430/124
443/129


Срби

25/84
26/79
23/105


Роми

104/32
142/27
173/37

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:31 PM

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/MKD_muni_nonn%28Novaci%29.png[/IMG]

Новаци

[B]2002-3.549 вкупно население

Македонци-3.490[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

43/77
29/77
35/66

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/MKD_muni_nonn%28Makedonski_Brod%29.png[/IMG]

Македонски Брод

[B]2002-7.141 вкупно население

Македонци-6.927[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

59/101
66/107
56/99

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/MKD_muni_nonn%28Staro_Nagoricane%29.png[/IMG]

[B]Старо Нагоричане

2002-4.840 вкупно население

Македонци-3.906
Срби-926[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

43/85
34/94
32/87


Срби

1/18
5/15
2/15

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/MKD_muni_nonn%28Sveti_Nikole%29.png[/IMG]

Свети Никола

[B]2002-18.497

Македонци-18.005
Власи-238[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

153/192
168/189
166/215


Власи

0/3
0/3
0/6

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/MKD_muni_nonn%28Demir_Hisar%29.png[/IMG]

Демир Хисар


[B]2002-9.497 вкупно население

Македонци-9.179[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

62/140
69/154
57/145

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/MKD_muni_nonn%28Krusevo%29.png[/IMG]

Крушево

[B]2002-9.684 вкупно население

Македонци-6.081
Албанци-2.064
Власи-1.020
Турци-315
[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

51/96
56/78
52/86


Албанци

11/16
61/13
44/14


Власи

5/9
3/4
1/12


Турци

9/2
14/3
10/1

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:34 PM

[IMG]http://www.rdc.mk/eastregion/images/stories/karta.gif[/IMG]

родени/умрени

2008-2009-2010


[B]Берово[/B]

Македонци

92/158
113/142
104/150


[B]Делчево[/B]

Македонци

140/163
117/162
138/183


[B]Пехчево[/B]

Македонци

51/86
32/64
27/69


[B]Виница[/B]

Македонци

133/181
153/158
142/162


[B]Кочани[/B]

Македонци

307/330
324/369
320/338


[B]Пробиштип[/B]

Македонци

122/164
145/192
133/166

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:34 PM

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/MKD_muni_nonn%28Skopje%29.png[/IMG]

[B]2002-506.926 вкупно население

Македонци-338.358 66,75%
Албанци-103.891 20,49%
Цигани-23.475 4,63%[/B]


родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010


[B]Град Скопје[/B]

Македонци

3.327/3.503
3.417/3.495
3.443/3.558


Албанци

1.974/619
2.030/656
2.240/636


Роми

655/186
701/200
687/186

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Map_of_Tetovo_Municipality.svg[/IMG]

[B]Тетово

2002-86.580 вкупно население

Македонци-20.053
Албанци-60.886[/B]

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

Македонци

173/199
188/234
197/230


Албанци

812/391
831/417
923/378

Bugi 03-11-2012 09:35 PM

Dont want to go into details about the two bigger ethnic macedonian cities,so I didint show the albanians,because they are about 3% in Bitola and have a positive growth but I would reather want to focus on the number and trends of ethnic macedonians.

родени/умрени 2008-2009-2010

[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/BitolaMap.png[/IMG]

[B]Битола

2002-95.385 вкупно население

Македонци-84.616
Роми-2.613[/B]

Македонци

757/1083
760/1027
785/1071


Роми

80/37
113/23
121/18


[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/MKD_muni_nonn%28Prilep%29.png[/IMG]

[B]Прилеп

2002-76.768 вкупно население

Македонци-70.878
Роми-4.433[/B]

Македонци

595/831
646/904
634/844


Роми

140/43
154/30
152/41


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