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Archaeologicum 06-07-2011 02:54 AM

[QUOTE=DirtyCodingHabitz;100619]walrus335 and Archaeologicum are both trolls, I've seen these type of morons recently on YouTube on Macedonian videos pretending to be greeks, serbs, bulgarians and macedonians.[/QUOTE]

Ok. I will tone down my statements, but what proof do have I am a troll ? I'd be careful in making unfounded allegations. I have no interest in pretending to be anything other than what I am

Archaeologicum 06-07-2011 02:56 AM

[QUOTE=Soldier of Macedon;100640]Albanians are a people and the only thing that needs to be 'eradicated' (through the exhaustion of all legal means in the interest of state security) is the extremist element among them that were/are prepared to take up arms against the Macedonian people. As for the others who harbour separatist views due to phoney grievances related to privileges they aren't entitled to as a minority - there is an Albanian state that can meet those expectations. The Macedonian language, culture and church must remain prevalent in the society of Macedonia, and the ethnic Albanians, like the other ethnic minorities, will receive their respective rights as per their size, where relevant, or as equal citizens in all other cases. Superior numbers should never be a determining factor where it concerns civic opportunities - the best person for the job is the right person for the job, so having to ensure that at least 20-25% of the police force, government jobs, etc (or anything else that is in a related field) is made up of ethnic Albanians is outrageous.

Things do need to change, but your suggestion is quite poor and hill-billy-like. DCH may have a point about both yourself and this new walnut charcter.[/QUOTE]

You're right SoM. I think my comments were misconstrued. That is what I mean by Shiptari - the war-mongering, aggressive element. Not ALL of them

Soldier of Macedon 06-07-2011 03:40 AM

You can't really misconstrue a comment that says Albanians are a 'plague' that needs to be 'eradicated'. Next time be more specific. But firstly, answer the question I posed to you on the other thread.

George S. 06-07-2011 04:03 AM

I think the albanians need to change.I think in a foreign ountry they need to identify as macedonian citizens & all rights pertaining to macedonian citizens will be added to them.I don't think they should ask for anything more like secession/special priveledges.etc that can only divide the communities.
The more the albanians identify as albanians the more they will divide them & us then they will seek speacial priveleges.
In another way if we can say that the albanians are most welcome if they decide to be first & foremost macedonian citizens & show us some respect as indegenous macedonians & we will accept them as equals citizens of the one country called macedonia.If this is done the albanians can reside peacefully in our country as macedonian citizens,Macedonia has given them everything under the sun except complete secession.
We need to be recoginzed ourselves as macedonians & that our macedonia is our tatkovina,By them accepting that we can coexist as one citizens of macedonia.

DirtyCodingHabitz 06-07-2011 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=Archaeologicum;100646]Ok. I will tone down my statements, but what proof do have I am a troll ? I'd be careful in making unfounded allegations. I have no interest in pretending to be anything other than what I am[/QUOTE]

Yea, that's what they all said.

walrus335 06-07-2011 11:34 AM

With that type of hate there will never be any peace between the Albanians and Macedonians. Judging by the posts of some members I highly doubt that you have ever encountered an Albanian and some of the stuff is just pure propaganda.

You guys act like Albanians invaded Macedonia which is false.. Albanians have been living in Macedonia for centuries upon centuries and don't give me the they came here from Kosovo line. They aren't some type of subhuman that wishes to harm any other ethnic group.

What's so bad about them wanting some rights? After all we all are humans.. What if Australia denied Macedonians the right to speak Macedonian? Macedonians in Albania enjoy the rights to speak their own language in schools, have signs in Macedonian, etc..

And whats up the wanting to ban me? I haven't posted anything negative and I don't even have 6 posts yet? geesh

DirtyCodingHabitz 06-07-2011 02:39 PM

[QUOTE]And whats up the wanting to ban me? I haven't posted anything negative and I don't even have 6 posts yet? geesh[/QUOTE]

Maybe because we are smarter than you thought. And yes, you have posted EU bs on another thread. And arch has posted some bs on this thread and misinformation on another one.

I can spot trolls when they popup out of nowhere just to start arguments and then mislead.

Risto the Great 06-07-2011 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=walrus335;100690]With that type of hate there will never be any peace between the Albanians and Macedonians. Judging by the posts of some members I highly doubt that you have ever encountered an Albanian and some of the stuff is just pure propaganda.

You guys act like Albanians invaded Macedonia which is false.. Albanians have been living in Macedonia for centuries upon centuries and don't give me the they came here from Kosovo line. They aren't some type of subhuman that wishes to harm any other ethnic group.

What's so bad about them wanting some rights? After all we all are humans.. What if Australia denied Macedonians the right to speak Macedonian? Macedonians in Albania enjoy the rights to speak their own language in schools, have signs in Macedonian, etc..

And whats up the wanting to ban me? I haven't posted anything negative and I don't even have 6 posts yet? geesh[/QUOTE]

Hi Wally.
Do you think any ethnic Albanians in Macedonia came from Kosovo in the last 20 years? How many in your opinion?

walrus335 06-07-2011 03:50 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;100705]Hi Wally.
Do you think any ethnic Albanians in Macedonia came from Kosovo in the last 20 years? How many in your opinion?[/QUOTE]

Albanians from Kosova came in to seek refuge but all have left. None are remaining to answer your question.

walrus335 06-07-2011 03:51 PM

[QUOTE=DirtyCodingHabitz;100699]Maybe because we are smarter than you thought. And yes, you have posted EU bs on another thread. And arch has posted some bs on this thread and misinformation on another one.

I can spot trolls when they popup out of nowhere just to start arguments and then mislead.[/QUOTE]


LOL do you hunt trolls for a living? :tt2:


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