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Soldier of Macedon 05-12-2010 07:39 AM

There is a series that was made, watched the first part, I liked it, the actor playing Spartacus is a gun and even looks like a nash choek, but he is now very ill unfortunately so part 2 is on hold at the moment.

Soldier of Macedon 05-12-2010 07:46 AM

Mihail, check the thread called 'Macedonians, Greeks and the New Testament', you'll find some good references there.


Spartan 05-12-2010 08:09 AM

Love his choice of name :p
Was it adopted when he became a gladiator, or prior?

Soldier of Macedon 05-12-2010 09:09 AM

Not sure, haven't come across anything in the texts, but that's not to say it isn't cited, I know in the series I mentioned earlier the name Spartacus was given to the prisoner, who, because of his fighting ability, was named after an ancient Thracian king. It's a Thracian name, kings around the Black Sea used it in other recorded variants like Spardacus and Sparadokos.

Spartan, does the word Sparta have an etymology in Greek?

Spartan 05-12-2010 02:32 PM

^^I dont think so, but i dont know for certain either way.

Interesting about the Thracian king. I would have never guessed that this is why he was named thus when considering the Roman 'admiration' of the Spartans and their ways.

TrueMacedonian 05-12-2010 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=I of Macedon;53143]As I presented from another thread “the expansion of the Slavic peoples to become the most numerous ethno-cultural group(s) in East Central Europe, the Balkans and Russia by the ninth century AD was also too rapid to be explicable as a natural demographic explosion (Barford 2001: 16; Urbanczyk 2005; 142). [B]‘The rate of reproduction involved to fill the new territories with descendants of a small original population, no matter how the figures are calculated, is biologically impossible’ (Barford 2001: 46)”.[/B] [url][/url]

Yet during the period the Thracians begin to disappear according to modern writers (though I never quite understood whether they mean the name or the people - strangely its all but never clearly specified). And as we know and as SOM also pointed out the Thracians resided in the same areas of Eastern Europe as the slavic speakers do today. The most important point however is that Thracians generally or perhaps exclusively were known as such because they resided in the region of Thrace, whilst the others who are regarded as belonging to the Thracians and that lived outside the area of Thrace all along from the Balkans to Russia didn’t identify themselves as Thracian (from what I understand please correct if I’m wrong), yet they were related to them. The strange irony to this is that researches, historians or pro-slavists etc. Can’t seem to connect those dots to form some logical conclusion (or even close to it), instead they prefer to state that the Thracians are extinct whilst the Slavs came from ummm, Mars, God :blushing: Thus in conclusion because “Slavs” begin around 6th century it creates the perception that they have no “real” ancient ancestors, thus claiming that they have connections to Thracians, Illyrians, Macedonians etc is noted as ridiculous - strange what happens when a system begins to command history.

By the way good thread SOM.

Oh, and Hollywood should make a new Spartacus movie, I think.[/QUOTE]

Barford is lauded by Curta. I think that Barford makes alot sense in the sentence above.

I of Macedon 05-13-2010 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=TrueMacedonian;53199]Barford is lauded by Curta. I think that Barford makes alot sense in the sentence above.[/QUOTE]

The only way it could not make sense, is if archaeologists found a cloning machine that that the "slavs" utilised in and around the 6th century AD. Forgot then about Alexanders body this 'cloning machine' would be the greatest find in all history. :eek1:

osiris 05-14-2010 11:41 AM

rtg proffesor freedman confirmed to me that there are quite a lot of what appear to be thracian inscriptions rotting away in greek prisons oops sorry greek museums but that so far no one has been given access to study them.

he also said there is a real possibility that many more will be found in bulgaria and hopefully historians will be able to at last study these amazing people using sources other than greek and roman

Risto the Great 05-14-2010 05:02 PM

Osiris, there is no doubt that Greece would have numerous Thracian artifacts and inscriptions. The question is what do they have to fear by releasing them to academic institutions for research.

Soldier of Macedon 05-14-2010 08:48 PM

There's no doubt that they're hiding Thracian inscriptions, but they can't hide them forever. Why would they hide them? How would it look to the rest of the world when it is revealed there are more Thracian than Greek inscriptions in the Macedonian part of Greece? It's only a matter of time, something is bound to turn up soon, and they're bound to slip up.

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