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George S. 02-11-2013 03:40 PM

what joke we are treated like second class citizens shown no respect at all.

Niko777 02-11-2013 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=George S.;139464]what joke we are treated like second class citizens shown no respect at all.[/QUOTE]

We must first have respect for ourselves and our own people before we expect respect from others.

Vangelovski 02-11-2013 05:51 PM

We don't need anyone to respect us and its highly unlikey that anyone ever will. We just need to respect ourselves and at least have others fear us.

Niko777 02-12-2013 11:24 AM

How the new mosque in Athens will be built....(compare this with how mosques are built in Macedonia)

[QUOTE]The mosque will be built in an old navy complex in the Elaiona district of the capital. According to the project, the mosque will be built [U]without a minaret in order to avoid changing the district’s landscape[/U]. The [U]Greek state will own the property[/U], while the mosque will be managed by a [U]committee comprising five Greek officials and two Muslims[/U]. The [U]imam will be appointed by the Greek Ministry of Educations[/U], Tsiaras added.[/QUOTE] (MIA)

Vangelovski 02-12-2013 05:20 PM

[quote=Niko777;139486]How the new mosque in Athens will be built....(compare this with how mosques are built in Macedonia)

(MIA)[/quote]And then compare that to how a church is built in Iran, Saudi Arabia...

Niko777 02-13-2013 12:21 PM

[B]This article was just published today
[/B]
[SIZE="5"][B][COLOR="Red"]Who's building the mosques in Macedonia?
[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

By Zoran Mitevski

Over 350 mosques were built in Macedonia in the last ten years. Only in the capital and its surroundings there are a dozen new mosques, often built without a building permit and without complete documentation necessary for the facility to be legal.

Expansion of new mosques is evident in western Macedonia, and in the northern parts of the country. But recent years they have been built around Shtip and Valandovo. Sources of funding mosques is not insignificant data. He who donated the construction can later control its affairs. However, this data is difficult to find.

According to rough estimates from construction firms that deal with the construction of mosques, to make such an object requires more than one million euros. Only the minaret can cost 50 to 60 thousand euros. The difference in price depends on the materials used for construction of the facility, the number of minarets and the mosque's size.

It is interesting that new mosques were built in Macedonia according to the Saudi Arabic model, unlike the older ones built from the Ottoman Empire.

According to intelligence sources, the most money for the construction of mosques came from Arab states such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and Egypt. Officially, however, the most money was paid by the Government of Saudi Arabia. The money originally intended to open schools and to promote religion, and the pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina. Ten years ago believers leaving for pilgrimage traveled with a bus, which meant up to 50 people from Macedonia, but the last few years there are from 25 to 30 buses. According to official information from the Muslim community, shipping these believers paid by the Government of Saudi Arabia, whose population is 97 percent (or 25 million people) is Muslim.

[B]In the last 10 years a billion euros entered Macedonia for the spread of Islam, of which 600 million were allocated for the construction of mosques. Other funds used for pilgrimage, other premises, and Roma aid scholarships.[/B]

According to experts in this area, the largest importer of radical Islam in the country is Saudi Arabia. In Bosnia and Herzegovina, where it is considered that radical Islam spread to Macedonia, the largest financier for the construction of mosques is the Government of Saudi Arabia. With its support in Bosnia constructed about 140 mosques and the mega-mosque of Sarajevo King Fahd.

The list of other countries that are major funders of the construction of mosques in Macedonia are Qatar, Kuwait, Malaysia, Libya and Egypt.

Turkish Cooperation and Development Agency (TIKA) funded the reconstruction Mustafa pashina mosque. According to information, all firms will enlist the public tender for the reconstruction or construction of an object, later becoming donors entering the country in the same way as in Bosnia and Herzegovina, southern Bulgaria, in Chechnya and Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan.

Where we have new mosques
- The exit of Skopje on the road to Gostivar built 88 new mosques
- In the village of Tearce restored old mosque, and this time build three new mosques
- Toll route from Tetovo to Skopje observes that in every village there is a new mosque
- Tetovo interchange entrance (right side of the road has unfinished mosque)
- Entry in Gostivar (mosque with two minarets)
- The old way to Gostivar through Bogovinje (dozen new mosques)
- new mosques in the village Cegrane and Forino
- New mosque on the entrance in Kumanovo
- in Slupcane, Vaksince, and Lipkovo
- Kicevo has seven mosques, and now builds the eighth
- Mosque under construction on the road to Kicevo
- new mosques in Ohrid
- In eastern Macedonia commonly build mosques in Roma neighborhoods, and in the last three years has new mosques in the Roma neighborhood in Strumica, Vinica, and Radovis
- New mosques in Valandovo and Demir Hisar (financed by the Turkish government)
- Mosques in all villages of Struga
- Mosque in Veles and Bitola area
- Two new mosques in Skopje's entry interchange
- In Nerezi village, next to the monastery "St Panteleimon"
- Two in the forests of Mt Vodno (no settlement around them, only three houses)
- Butel, the route to the Orthodox cemetery
- Karpos
- new mosque in the Old Bazaar
- Two mosques in Chento
- One in Butel
- Two mosques in Aracinovo
- A mosque in Katlanovo
- A mosque beside Alexander the Great Airport
- Three mosques in Suto Orizari
- Studenicani and
- One in Chiflik, near the village of Sveta Petka
- Kondovo and several mosques in a Shishevo
- One in Ljuboten

[B]
(The author is a former assistant director of the Intelligence Agency of the Republic of Macedonia)[/B]

George S. 02-13-2013 03:22 PM

I'm talking of basic respect for our identity.So does it boil down that if we don't care why should they care.The albanians don't show any respect at all.THe building of mosques just about anywhere is a total disprespect for macedonian soveregnity they will build it regardless of how we feel.

George S. 02-13-2013 03:24 PM

remember the kale mosque & the old church it all began like the albanians were tearing the church down at night & building the mosque whils't we tore theirs during the day.
What does that say about our sovereignity & respect we can respect ourselves as much as we want the albanians need to be taught a valuable lesson.

Niko777 02-18-2013 01:30 PM

[B][COLOR="Red"][U]Say hello to Macedonia's new Minister of Defense (elected in parliament today): Talat Xhaferi[/U][/COLOR][/B]

[IMG]http://denesen.mk/web/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/talat-dzaferi-mji.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.mkd.mk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/talat-dzaferi1.jpg[/IMG]

Gocka 02-18-2013 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;139609][B][COLOR="Red"][U]Say hello to Macedonia's new Minister of Defense (elected in parliament today): Talat Xhaferi[/U][/COLOR][/B]

[IMG]http://denesen.mk/web/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/talat-dzaferi-mji.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.mkd.mk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/talat-dzaferi1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Who is this guy? Do you have any more information about him? What happened to the last minister? Did he resign or was he sacked?


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