[QUOTE=Niko777;92375][B]What I have posted above is something that the Macedonian government censors from the public, something that they don't want you to know. While politicians like Gruevski, Crvenkovski, the media, and the rest, continue to deceive Macedonians with phony promises, the name issue, the economy, and who knows what else - back room deals with enemies are taking place. Macedonian politicians are nothing more than wolves dressed up in sheep cloths. They have sold off Macedonia, they have cost the Macedonian their country, their freedom and their identity. Let this be clear to everyone![/B][/QUOTE]

So has the macedonian public. y

[QUOTE=Komita;92469]Albanians are ugly but as a people they stand up for eachother. They are not to blame for this, the macedonians are to blame because they frankly dont care about the situation.[/QUOTE]

Very well said, but most people care because this is one of the most active topics. Look at America - so ethnically diverse that any person could be a foreign spy. But the people listen the American anthem every day at school so they love their country and care for it.

the albanians are as ugly as hell but gruevski keeps going with the deals whether it's sports halls or other things all legitimising their claims.
Even terrorists get recognition & dead ones get a heros welcome.

[B][COLOR="Red"][U]Main Hostpital in Gostivar renamed after famous Albanian Ferid Murad[/U][/COLOR][/B]

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[QUOTE=Bij;92410]Everyone anti Macedonia is ugly. That's a given.

This is not to detract from the fact that I'm yet to meet a good looking Albanian man. Or even a decent looking Albanian man. Or, you know, an Albanian man with a full set of teeth.[/QUOTE]

I think the albanian ghegs in macedonia are ugly in both physical terms and most importantly personality/human side. They are very racist and cruel people.
Most ghegs in macedonia have that dopey hillbilly look, and to tell you the truth i honestly think that because the ghegs have been a mountainous tribal people that have been uncivilized, its perhaps due to poor health/hygiene and probably incest or something. They just look off.

And then you have the ones that look hell arabic/middle eastern.

But not all "albanians" are ugly.

My cousins posted up images of their trip to albania on their facebook profile and there were so many beautiful albanian woman in the nightclubs and the bar maids were amazing. All model material. These were all in Vlore and Sarande, southern albania, tosk albanians.

I have a few female friends who are tosk and they are quite hot as well. Very nice as well, not as selfish or cruel as the ghegs.

I guess what i am trying to say that it is no surprise to me that the general consensus here is that people think that the inbred arabic looking ghegs as ugly, however i think the more "European" tosks are better looking. More proof in my opinion that tosks and ghegs are more different then they like to admit....

[QUOTE=Komita;92469]Albanians are ugly but as a people they stand up for eachother. They are not to blame for this, the macedonians are to blame because they frankly dont care about the situation.
Ne postoi po sebicen, materijalisticki nastroen narod od makedonskiot.
Most macedonians dont care for nothing else but themself, to buy more things so they can impress their family, friends and neighbours.
Our mentality has brought us to this stage, dont blame the albanians because they have just taken the advantage.


Ps. Nice to see our western "friends" and their flags in the background and their ally Saudi-Arabia in Slupcane.:rolleyes1:[/QUOTE]

I think you are correct about the greedy sort of thinking by a large portion of macedonians, both diaspora and republic.

You have to admire the shiptars, whether they are gheg or tosk, muslim, christian or catholic, from kosovo macedonia or albania - they all work for the same goal and put their differences aside when it matters. More impresivly they all are proud of "albanians" throughout different eras from history - from the illyrians, to albanians that were catholic, to the muslims albanians that were running the ottoman empire.

Unfortunately things are different in macedonia - we have macedonians from grease that call macedonians in the republic as serbs and macedonians from the republic call them greeks. We have christian and muslims macedonians fighting against each other in the name of their religion when we should be one and united. Both the diaspora and the macedonians from the republic refuse to work with each other and dare i say it hate each other.

And then we have lunatic christians like you who mock our connections and admiration of alexander the great and the ancient macedonians. Yet ironically the albanians worship and admire the ancient illyrians but at the same time also claim and are proud of their muslim sultans in the ottoman empire. Why cant we be like this?

We can mock the shiptars all night and day, but i honestly think they are more switched on then us, while we are all fighting each other and arguing who the "real" macedonian is.....

[QUOTE=Niko777;92375][B]What I have posted above is something that the Macedonian government censors from the public, something that they don't want you to know. While politicians like Gruevski, Crvenkovski, the media, and the rest, continue to deceive Macedonians with phony promises, the name issue, the economy, and who knows what else - back room deals with enemies are taking place. Macedonian politicians are nothing more than wolves dressed up in sheep cloths. They have sold off Macedonia, they have cost the Macedonian their country, their freedom and their identity. Let this be clear to everyone![/B][/QUOTE]

That is the unfortunate reality - you will not see or hear about this in macedonian media. It is just even more proof of how sick our "leaders" are.

We on this forum would probably not know about this unless you posted these photos - and we are grateful for your efforts.

However you cant say the macedonians dont know what is going on. A lot of what you have posted is happening in big cities like Skopje and Kumanovo. It is happening in the macedonians neighborhoods and local councils, and for the unfortunate right next door to them.

I think all of macedonia know exactly what is going on with the shiptars, however they choose to stick their heads in the sand and hope the problem will go away....

I support you completely Big Bad Sven
and it is also true what komita said.
We have to blame ourselves for our situation.
Za zal, ama i jas mislam deka makedoncite se
eden od najsebicen narod so postoj na balkanot i epten ljubomorni.
Od prileka, samo se slusa "nie nemame pari" a vie i stranci
site ste bogati. a deka pojako rabotime cela godina
za eden odmor i tie samo vo kafici sedat toa ne gledat.
toa tolku me vadi od kontakt :censored:
i taka e se vo makedonija i so makedoncite.

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;92590]I support you completely Big Bad Sven
and it is also true what komita said.
We have to blame ourselves for our situation.
Za zal, ama i [B]jas mislam deka makedoncite se
eden od najsebicen narod so postoj[/B] na balkanot i epten ljubomorni.
Od prileka, samo se slusa "nie nemame pari" a vie i stranci
site ste bogati. a deka pojako rabotime cela godina
za eden odmor i tie samo vo kafici sedat toa ne gledat.
toa tolku me vadi od kontakt :censored:
i taka e se vo makedonija i so makedoncite.[/QUOTE]

It's an ecconomic race - one the Macedonians are loosing every day. [B]The Albanians work together[/B], buy up land and build to make more money to buy more of Macedonia and so on. Their mission is to build a country. Then they can show the west via the media that so much of Macedonia is theirs if it comes time to breaking off. In the mean time the Macedonians will just bitch at each other and the government over anything.

The Macedonians in Macedonia will tell you sitting around in caffes all day every day is how life should be and if your not doing it then you must be some kind of idiot who doesn't know how to live while the diaspora think if you expect me to support a lifestyle like that your dreaming while the Albanians will build up their part of Macedonia and their wealth and afford the lifestyle and walk away with a good chunk of the country.

Stari ne be budali sto velee,"kaj sto nema sloga nema boga"

[U][B][COLOR="Red"]Macedonian Politicians Just Can't Get Enough of Albanian Culture....[/COLOR][/B][/U]

While our President is in Albania Touring the Albanian Parliament....

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Our Defence Minister in Kosovo collaborating with the Kosovar Army.

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