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ProMKD 04-25-2012 11:11 AM

^^ No offense, but do you purposely use lawyer language, or is that just how you express yourself?

Tomche Makedonche 04-25-2012 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=ProMKD;126162]^^ No offense, but do you purposely use lawyer language, or is that just how you express yourself?[/QUOTE]

Hehe, fair comment, I'm not a lawyer but I guess I'm accustomed to having to express myself in a professional manner, probably an indirect consequence of my occupations. Matters I have serious opinions on I tend to treat in a professional manner and therefore I suppose I express myself the same. Matters which are trivial I guess I'm more relaxed/casual..., so basically talk to me about political affairs and I'll express my opinion in a manner which I think best articulates it, talk to me about the F1 and I'll tell you how I think Hamilton has been acting like a little bitch lately, and how Webber still can't take off for shit...

ProMKD 04-25-2012 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=Tomche Makedonche;126163]Hehe, fair comment, I'm not a lawyer but I guess I'm accustomed to having to express myself in a professional manner, probably an indirect consequence of my occupations. Matters I have serious opinions on I tend to treat in a professional manner and therefore I suppose I express myself the same. Matters which are trivial I guess I'm more relaxed/casual..., so basically talk to me about political affairs and I'll express my opinion in a manner which I think best articulates it, talk to me about the F1 and I'll tell you how I think Hamilton has been acting like a little bitch lately, and how Webber still can't take off for shit...[/QUOTE]

heheheh, your vocabulary is advanced, there's nothing wrong with that! Welcome to the forum by the way! Sometimes people post in big words just to seem important, that's why I was bugging you, but from your second response I believe that you actually understand the words you are using. See you around the forum!

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PS. Nice signature, I've never heard that quote before, I like it.

George S. 04-25-2012 04:04 PM

TM welcome aboard I love it the way your quote talks about like master & slave & putting your back to the wheel.So do you think the wolves will leave once they had their fill.Since the 1913 partition of macedonia none have been happy with their share & apparently they all wanted more.
The current shiptars have made it known that they want the whole of macedonia as it belongs to their illirida.They want it all.They have no regard or respect for us "slavo"Macedonians & they just want our land & they want us out.

Risto the Great 04-25-2012 06:25 PM

[QUOTE=Tomche Makedonche;126161]Any action embarked on should solely correspond with the "kind" of Macedonia that is intended to be created or sustained. Once this has been identified, the options available on how to achieve this goal should become clearer.[/QUOTE]

Hard to disagree with your much of your opinion Tomche. I feel it is purposely open for significant degrees of interpretation though. In relation to the above, who do you believe is driving the "kind" of Macedonia you speak of?

My opinion is simple. Albanians represents a sphere of influence in the region that the USA can manipulate. They are an easy grouping of people to work with. The USA's interests in the Balkans are best served dealing with a group of people with aligned national interests. Macedonia has no real ally and the lure of the EU seems utterly delectable to the politicians and the citizens. Membership in the EU does not help the USA one little bit. Membership in the EU will also do little for Macedonians.

In a nutshell, Macedonia has no future unless Macedonians decide on a future for themselves.

Vangelovski 04-25-2012 07:34 PM

[COLOR=#390002][FONT=Verdana]Welcome aboard TM. Excuse me for the abbreviation, but I’m lazy when it comes to writing out full pseudonyms. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#390002][FONT=Verdana][quote=Tomche Makedonche;126161]As for RoM, superfluous rights bestowed on particular citizens via an internationally brokered agreement which has to the extent been ratified by constitutional amendments will not be allowed to be retracted on the basis of internal democratic policy alone, rather as the state has proven itself incapable of resolving a particular internal issue without the aid of external mediation (whether willingly or be force), then by such precedence, the external mediators are considered obligated to include themselves in any attempts to replace the said agreement, for the "purpose" of ensuring any proposed replacement remains acceptable to the interests of all parties involved. Hence in this respect, sovereignty has been bypassed. [/quote]Even so, that does not mean that Macedonia needs to welcome them or even allow foreign interference in its own domestic affairs, particularly if it is simply following internationally accepted practice by deconstructing so-called ‘group rights’ and implementing a political system based on individual rights and responsibilities.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#390002][FONT=Verdana]I don’t for a minute believe this would be a simple task and it does risk war. But not to attempt it would mean voluntarily surrendering Macedonia to a minority group led by racist extremists. War is undesirable to say the least, but many times it is unavoidable if we are to have a just peace in the long run.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#390002][FONT=Verdana][quote=Tomche Makedonche;126161]Any action embarked on should solely correspond with the "kind" of Macedonia that is intended to be created or sustained. Once this has been identified, the options available on how to achieve this goal should become clearer.[/quote]What type of actions do you think would be appropriate under these circumstances?[/FONT][/COLOR]
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MKPrilep 04-26-2012 08:20 AM

SELO (ne grad) glumovo
I think the mosque is as big as the new church in Strumica which till now is only to find in youtube
The mosque is real.


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George S. 04-26-2012 08:41 AM

I bet this mosque has been approved with plans etc??does anyone know?I have heard in some cases the albanians build it without even asking.

ProMKD 04-26-2012 09:52 AM

Holy f*** this is huge - think of how much TNT it would take...

Today I read about the son of the businessman from Shtip that owns the vegetable oil company `Brilijant`. He married his son this week, and his new wife brags about `we bought our clothes in Sofia, and my makeup was done by armend ramadani`
[quote]¸Со Мишко бевме во Софија и од таму ги купивме мојот фустан, неговиот костум и чевлите. Само за шминката и фризурата се погрижи Арменд Рамадани, вели Сања.[url]http://www.vest.com.mk/default.asp?ItemID=7AA1B8F87CF2BD45B16DEDD4B9BBF7B9[/url][/quote]

Traitors.

By the way, I think we need to open a thread specifically for all the Macedonian Orthodox Churches that have been robbed or vandalized. It would take some work from the admins/mods, but it would be worth being able to showcase the religious intolerance against our people. The topic should be closed for discussion, and should only provide links and quotes of articles where everybody can clearly see all the news for themselves. This topic is good for our members, but it`s far too enormous for outside viewers to actually get info from it easily.

Niko777 04-26-2012 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;126202]SELO (ne grad) glumovo
I think the mosque is as big as the new church in Strumica which till now is only to find in youtube
The mosque is real.


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One thing that I find very IRONIC about this mosque - it is built in neo-Byzantine architecture based on Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, something that Macedonians could never do for their Orthodox chruches, yet the Albanians have perfected it for their mosque.


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