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Soldier of Macedon 02-29-2012 07:01 AM

[QUOTE=Krivan;121572]The only possible option to deal with Albanians is assimilation. If we try to deport them, it won't sit too well with international organizations. We probably will become a pariah state i.e. Serbia during 90s as consequence despite the fact Greeks have been doing it since the 19th century.[/QUOTE]
These days, total assimilation is difficult because many peoples wish to preserve their individual ethnic identities. Fair enough. There should still be a level of assimilation to ensure their integration in Macedonian society. But one can only help another if the latter is willing to accept it. Many ethnic Albanians in Macedonia don't want to integrate, at least that is the impression one has when they read the news in Macedonia, and each time our politicians give in to their unreasonable 'demands', it makes it that much harder to preserve Macedonia as the national home of the Macedonian people. Now, even moderate ethnic Albanians will not be willing to give up what their extremist kinsmen have gained. Why would they want to integrate into Macedonian society when they aren't being compelled to, and are in fact being provided the means to do the exact opposite?

The only way to reverse this situation is to replace the Framework Agreement and associated changes to the law, constitution, etc, with a more appropriate arrangement that will not be detrimental to the Macedonian people and their national home. Once this has been done (if it is even possible), then it will need to be enforced. This is where it could get messy. An armed conflict is the last thing I want to see, but perhaps it is inevitable if Macedonia is to be saved. Will ethnic Albanians (extremists or otherwise) fire on Macedonian authorities if they were to dismantle the UCK museum in Skopje, or revoke the right for people to speak non-Macedonian languages in the Macedonian parliament, or return the country on the path to Macedonian statehood rather than this Macedonian-Albanian federation? Will they try to destabilise Macedonia if a Macedonian political party chose not to form an alliance with an ethnic Albanian political party?
[QUOTE]Concerning our occupied territory, I believe it is too late to get those lands back.[/QUOTE]
If the Macedonian republic keeps going the way it is, then that will also eventually be 'too late to fix'. That is why there needs to be a sense of urgency - now. The bad things happening in Macedonia should be our driving force, because God knows there are few good things to encourage us.
[QUOTE]I think it's best to focus on sorting our affairs at home such as getting our numbers up, improving our economy, reassert our identity (Kutles sun flag, RoM as constitutional name). Those things should come first before any kind of territorial expansions.[/QUOTE]
Territorial expansion is impossible without war. I would be happy for the Macedonians in neighbouring countries to be afforded the same rights as the minorities in Macedonia.

Niko777 03-01-2012 08:22 PM

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]From Today - March 1st 2012
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[COLOR="Red"][B][SIZE="5"][U]Macedonians[/U] Support Albanians in their Protest against "Police Brutality"[/SIZE][/B] [B][SIZE="3"][/COLOR]

aka 1 man defending himself and his young daughter outnumbered 4 to 1.[/SIZE][/B]

[IMG]http://shqipmedia.com/portal/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gvshk.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://v2plusinfo.cfd.mk/large_gal/2012/03/01/bbb.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://v2plusinfo.cfd.mk/large_gal/2012/03/01/llllll.jpg[/IMG]


[SIZE="5"][B][COLOR="red"]What do Albanians do in Return?

They destroyed Macedonian owned shops and businesses![/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

[IMG]http://www.bezpardon.mk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/DSC068931.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/WBStorage/Articles/32F0F59A5A6625498E6196ED14959044.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/WBStorage/Articles/3E1FB2FC37293146976FD36E4A5DA5B0.jpg[/IMG]

[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="5"]What is the message of today's protests?[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]

[B][SIZE="3"]1. Self Defence does not apply when you are being attacked by a group of Albanian thugs, not even when your children are at risk

2. The best way to protest "Police Brutality" is to wave Albanian flags and shout Greater-Albania Chants

3. Macedonians supported Albanians in their protests

4. In return Albanians destroyed Macedonian shops and businesses [/SIZE]

Note: All photos were from today - March 1[/B]

Niko777 03-01-2012 08:31 PM

[B]Sources:[/B]

[SIZE="4"][B][URL="http://sky.mk/makedonija/16449-%D0%A1%D0%B5-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B0%D1%82-%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%9C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D0%BE-%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%80.html"]Се демолираат дуќани на Македонци во Гостивар[/URL][/B]

[B][URL="http://vesti.alfa.mk/default.aspx?mId=36&eventId=46826"]"Ние тука сме и Македонци и Албанци, заедно...."[/URL][/B][/SIZE]

Volk 03-01-2012 08:38 PM

Some protests against police brutality, the fact that the man was an of duty police officer has no relevance, he could have been a teacher, baker anything.

He was defending himself and his daughter.

Strangely enough, I didn't know chanting " Allah akber, Ilrida" and calling Macedonians slavs had anything to do with so called police brutality.

Niko777 03-01-2012 08:45 PM

[IMG]http://www.bezpardon.mk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/DSC06894.jpg[/IMG]

Photo from one of the destroyed shops today.

"Ilirida" must mean "Stop Police Brutality" in Albanian...


Most of the younger Albanians who were protesting did not even know why they were there, they just left school because their teachers told them to go out and protest.

Niko777 03-01-2012 08:52 PM

[QUOTE=Volk;121819]Some protests against police brutality, the fact that the man was an of duty police officer has no relevance, he could have been a teacher, baker anything.

He was defending himself and his daughter.
[/QUOTE]

The irony is that while Albanians are protesting "violence" against Albanians, the victim and his daughter who were attacked in the first place were probably targeted because they were Macedonian. Yet, we don't see any protests from the Macedonian side for Albanians attacking innocent Macedonians, or against Albanians destroying Macedonian businesses. It's always the Albanians who take charge of the protests and they are politicizing, distorting, and twisting every event that comes out in the daily press.

Niko777 03-01-2012 09:01 PM

[B][COLOR="Red"]Macedonian Media Defends Albanians...
[/COLOR][/B]

[IMG]http://v2plusinfo.cfd.mk/commercials/fokusbroj89golema.jpg[/IMG]

[B]The headlines reads "Together against Brutality" and that the people of Gostivar protested "peacefully". No mention of the dozens of Macedonian shops destroyed.
[/B]

Soldier of Macedon 03-01-2012 09:09 PM

What are these people trying to suggest, that the off-duty police officer pre-emptively attacked 4 men while his daughter was in the car?

Volk 03-01-2012 11:32 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;121824][B][COLOR="Red"]Macedonian Media Defends Albanians...
[/COLOR][/B]

[IMG]http://v2plusinfo.cfd.mk/commercials/fokusbroj89golema.jpg[/IMG]

[B]The headlines reads "Together against Brutality" and that the people of Gostivar protested "peacefully". No mention of the dozens of Macedonian shops destroyed.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Soros owned media, makes me sick!! I wonder if the man was a baker, what would the heading read? Baker brutality??
[QUOTE]
The irony is that while Albanians are protesting "violence" against Albanians, the victim and his daughter who were attacked in the first place were probably targeted because they were Macedonian. Yet, we don't see any protests from the Macedonian side for Albanians attacking innocent Macedonians, or against Albanians destroying Macedonian businesses. It's always the Albanians who take charge of the protests and they are politicizing, distorting, and twisting every event that comes out in the daily press. [/QUOTE]

Spot on, Macedonians can only make excuses for albanians, whilst they do not care for each others welfare.

[SIZE="6"]The family of the man that defended himself fled the city, while the family of the thugs that attacked him and her received 300000 Denari from the local government[/SIZE]

Gostivar will now be ethnically cleansed of Macedonians...

Niko777 03-02-2012 12:15 AM

The next step is to name a school in Gostivar after the Albanian thugs that were shot


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