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  • MapleLeaf1
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    • Sep 2008
    • 114

    Detsa Begaltsi

    The biggest propaganda of our recent history is that of the Detsa Begaltsi, the greeks would want the world to believe that the dirty slav communists stole these women and their children
    But we have living victims to tell us otherwise, but yet still it is dismissed as skopian propaganda

    YouTube] - Refugee children from the Greek Civil War (1946-49)
    Last edited by MapleLeaf1; 09-04-2008, 12:59 PM.
  • MapleLeaf1
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 114

    #3
    I dont know why it comes up like that Dimko, its still on you tube
    YouTube - Deca Begalci - Refugee children from the Aegean Macedonia
    Last edited by MapleLeaf1; 09-04-2008, 12:58 PM.

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    • Makedonia
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 76

      #4
      Here is a Time Magazine article on the same topic with eye witness accounts from 1950.


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      • Jankovska
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1774

        #5
        Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
        Here is a Time Magazine article on the same topic with eye witness accounts from 1950.


        http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...1653-1,00.html
        I think you should watch the video mate and not turn a blind eye. These are real people with real sufferings that your lovely goverment put them trough and worst is they still suffer. Judgment day will come for all fascist and my god I can't wait for Greece to face it

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        • Makedonia
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          • Sep 2008
          • 76

          #6
          Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
          I think you should watch the video mate and not turn a blind eye. These are real people with real sufferings that your lovely goverment put them trough and worst is they still suffer. Judgment day will come for all fascist and my god I can't wait for Greece to face it
          I watched the video.

          Did you read the article?

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          • MapleLeaf1
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 114

            #7
            Originally posted by Makedonia View Post
            Here is a Time Magazine article on the same topic with eye witness accounts from 1950.


            [url]http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811653
            One article in Time magazine during the cold war, compared to thousands of living accounts, and now with the advent of you tube, right in front of your own eyes
            WAKE UP!!!!!!

            Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


            YouTube - Еxiled Macedonians (Part 2)

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            • Jankovska
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1774

              #8
              Hm an article written by somebody, a real person in front of your eyes.
              Makedonia you started really getting on my nerves.

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              • Makedonia
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                • Sep 2008
                • 76

                #9
                Kaliroe Gouloumi, Kleoniki Kiprou, Sofia Makri as per the article are also victims of the stolen children.

                Why do you choose to disregard their testamonies?

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                • fatso
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 301

                  #10
                  Why would you say it's propaganda , when there are Greeks in Romania and other Balkan countries who Grandparents were taken from their parents and shipped to communist countries. My mother has a neighbour who is Greek from Romania ...who witnessed first hand these abductions.

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                  • Daskalot
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4345

                    #11
                    Originally posted by fatso View Post
                    Why would you say it's propaganda , when there are Greeks in Romania and other Balkan countries who Grandparents were taken from their parents and shipped to communist countries. My mother has a neighbour who is Greek from Romania ...who witnessed first hand these abductions.
                    Of course everything is not black and white, there must have been some children of Greek communists that were sent to eastern Europe, but the bulk of them were and still are Ethnic Macedonians from the Greek part of Macedonia.
                    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                    • Makedonia
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 76

                      #12
                      Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                      Of course everything is not black and white, there must have been some children of Greek communists that were sent to eastern Europe, but the bulk of them were and still are Ethnic Macedonians from the Greek part of Macedonia.
                      I have heard of several versions, one talks of the communist Bulgarians stealing them, the other talks of the retreating Greek communists, and the other talks of the Greek Royalists stealing the kids.

                      Who stole these children.?

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                      • MapleLeaf1
                        Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 114

                        #13
                        What about the version of the greek army( be it communist or royalist) trying to kill the women and children as they fled
                        No wait that doesnt seem to fit into your so called versions

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                        • Makedonia
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #14
                          Originally posted by MapleLeaf1 View Post
                          What about the version of the greek army( be it communist or royalist) trying to kill the women and children as they fled
                          No wait that doesnt seem to fit into your so called versions
                          So the Greek army both communist and royalist stole the children according to your sources Maple.

                          No Bulgarian army involvement whatsoever?

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                            Of course everything is not black and white, there must have been some children of Greek communists that were sent to eastern Europe, but the bulk of them were and still are Ethnic Macedonians from the Greek part of Macedonia.
                            Absolutely.
                            And of particular amazement to me is the mother of a friend of mine. He is pure Greek ... his mother comes from Northern Greece (near Salonika), his father from ... ... Constantinople. Well, his Mother used to speak "that language" as a child ... got shipped out to Czech Republic and then came back a pure Greek.

                            Go figure.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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