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Niko777 07-10-2011 06:00 PM

[COLOR="Red"][U][B]Macedonian flags replaced with Albanian flags in front of Macedonian Government[/B][/U][/COLOR]
During a rally last month by DPA

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzg9nDEud1I]YouTube - ‪Tubimi ne Shkup‬‏[/url]

Soldier of Macedon 07-10-2011 09:23 PM

You know, if they were just doing it on a couple of occasions to celebrate their culture during days of significance, or if it was hoisted on their own social club houses, private institutions, etc, I wouldn't have an issue with it, but the fact that they parade around our country with a foreign flag like the land in which they live actually belongs to a foreign state, is the greatest insult. They simply have no regard for Macedonian sovereignty when they exhibit such behaviour. It would be like myself going around the whole of Australia and putting up a Macedonian flag next to each Australian one (after the Macedonian minority took up arms against the state which gave them a home), such a move is disrespectful. There must be a law against such provocative actions.

Niko777 07-10-2011 09:27 PM

[QUOTE]There must be a law against such provocative actions.[/QUOTE]

Even if there is a law, nothing will be done.

Pelister 07-10-2011 09:51 PM

In most democratic countries this kind of thing is allowed. Legally, they can do it and get away with it.

I think that what bothers all of us here is the 'context' of it. The objective of Albanian nationalists is to split Macedonia. 2001 was simply a carefullly orchestrated stage, in that process. We all know that there are two nationalities in Macedonia - an Albanian nationality, and a Macedonian nationality. We know what is 'behind' the raising of an Albanian flag.

Risto the Great 07-10-2011 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Pelister;104916]In most democratic countries this kind of thing is allowed. Legally, they can do it and get away with it.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that Macedonia is not really a democracy. It purports to be and gives the impression to the outside world. But it is a puppet State that (in addition external influence) is hamstrung by the ethnic Albanians as a consequence of the Framework agreement.

George S. 07-11-2011 12:02 AM

If a country is pandering to minorities just so that the politicians can stay in power is not in a real sense a democracy.It's like prostituting one self for the process of political expediency of the moment.Politicians have selected to be in bed with terroists who were fighting in 2001.What rights were they fighting for to take our lands away & call them albanian,who stupid is that capitulating to terrorists with agreements like the ohrid agreement.In the mean time the govt is in bed with the albanians whil'st it's neglecting the real citizens of macedonia.THe albanians are not real citizens but are pretend citizens with a greater albania motive.

Risto the Great 07-11-2011 12:33 AM

[QUOTE=George S.;104924]THe albanians are not real citizens but are pretend citizens with a greater albania motive.[/QUOTE]
Of course they are citizens. They just don't have Macedonia's sovereignty as a priority.

lavce pelagonski 07-13-2011 01:22 AM

Albanians against the Macedonian language in schools

11.07.2011, ora 19:12

Çarshia e Shkupit
Albanians in Macedonia fear again this year, the fact that the authorities in Skopje will try to realize the project which aims the introduction of the Macedonian language for their children since in first grade.

But on the other hand the leader of the League of Albanian teachers said that is such a thing is applied it will fail from the start.

Leaders of the Ministry of Education of Macedonia do not provide any explanation on how it will be proceeded in this new school year. /albeu.com/

[url]http://english.albeu.com/albania-news/albanians-against-the-macedonian--language-in-schools/41017/[/url]

Risto the Great 07-13-2011 01:27 AM

[QUOTE=lavce pelagonski;105129]But on the other hand the leader of the League of Albanian teachers said that is such a thing is applied it will fail from the start.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it would fail in Albania. But it [I]should[/I] not in Macedonia.

George S. 07-13-2011 04:52 AM

NO they don't enjoy the same rights .Do they have their own representation in the albanian parliament.I would guess that there's double the number of macedonians in albania then there is albanians in macedonia about 800k.BUT there is one huge difference the albanians in macedonia are politically motivated so the ultimate goal is a greater albania.They want to secede from macedonia & also they undermine macedonian sovereignity all the time.Do the macedonians in albania cause trouble like that in albania & the answer is no as they operate within the framework within democratic means.
Personally we should stop pandering to them & only give them the same rights as those macedonians are given in albania what could be fairer than that.
Also there is a huge differenece the macedonians respect the country they are in & don't harbour any irrendist behaviour where the contrast of albanians in macedonia want better rights & don't respect the country they live in.


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