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Valmir 03-08-2012 09:48 AM

[QUOTE]Our armed services were far more superior than your forces.Today there would be no
albanian problem.I think the real problem is wanting a greater albania & connecting with kosovo.If this sort of thing happens again.The macedonian state will muster all it's strengh & destroy your kind once & for all.[/QUOTE]
In the 2001 you had the help of Ukraine,Greece,Bulgaria and Serbia or you forgot that, and the worst is that you failed to defeat some villages :(
And if it was only for Macedonia we would have made Greater Albania long time ago but we have to deal with Serbia first.

Valmir 03-08-2012 09:57 AM

[QUOTE]How do you think it came to be that Romance-speaking peoples all the way from Italy to Brazil use the name 'Valmir'? Is it because they all descend from Albanians, or is it because your people have adopted a foreign term and given it some 'folk etymology'? Perhaps it is just a coincidence, but then how many other Albanian names end with '-mir'?[/QUOTE]
In Albanian it has FULL MEANING!,And there are not many names that end with MIR in Albanian.

[QUOTE]How should we have assimilated them? Force them to give up their identity? Take up arms and attack them? What weren't they provided prior to 2001 which would prevent them from assimilating into Macedonian society like every other normal minority in the country?[/QUOTE]
You can never assimilate someone using a super weapon, You have to be ONE with them, for example the Arvanites of Greece.Greeks invite them in Greek televisions,Let them freely have good jobs etc. But now even if you do that its too late.

United MKD 03-08-2012 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122366]In the 2001 you had the help of Ukraine,Greece,Bulgaria and Serbia or you forgot that, and the worst is that you failed to defeat some villages :(
And if it was only for Macedonia we would have made Greater Albania long time ago but we have to deal with Serbia first.[/QUOTE]

Can you specifically tell me with sources in what way Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia helped Macedonia? I'm curious to hear about their involvement.

Thanks

Soldier of Macedon 03-08-2012 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=Valmir;122367]In Albanian it has FULL MEANING![/QUOTE]
If the origin of the word is non-Albanian then your 'meaning' is actually meaningless. That is why it is called folk etymology.
[QUOTE]And there are not many names that end with MIR in Albanian.[/QUOTE]
Can you name any more? In Europe, the -mir (peace) ending is very common for names in Slavonic languages, whereas the -mer (great) ending is present in both Slavonic and Germanic languages. A number of Germanic names were adopted by Romance-speaking peoples, perhaps this was also the case with the name 'Valmir'. Or perhaps it is a bastardised version of a Macedonian or Serbian name. It certainly doesn't look Albanian.
[QUOTE]You have to be ONE with them, for example the Arvanites of Greece.Greeks invite them in Greek televisions,Let them freely have good jobs etc.[/QUOTE]
So you're happy with your Albanian/Arvanite kinsmen being proud 'ethnic' Greeks today?

Voltron 03-08-2012 03:09 PM

No country can assimilate its minorities if they provide strong minority status priveldges. The agreement made with the Albanians must be put to a referendum and abolished. You have to create a strong ethnic country with the understanding that whoever embraces you will be considered as one of your own. We dont challenge anybody's dna or background when they willingly assimilate to our Ethnos. Thats why I find it ironic we get labeled as racists. You still have time to make changes, once you join NATO or EU it will be that much more difficult.

Just tell the Putin you have a prime piece of property in Tetovo in need of a military base. That will get people moving. lol.

Niko777 03-08-2012 06:51 PM

[b][color="red"][SIZE="5"]Albanians injure 10 Macedonians in overnight attacks !!![/SIZE][/color][/b]

[quote]march 08, 2012
authorities say 10 people were injured in a series of overnight attacks in macedonia's capital, skopje.

The first attack occurred in a majority macedonian suburb when a group of masked, hooded youths armed with baseball bats got on a public bus and injured five passengers.

Another group of youths pelted a bus with stones, injuring a driver and two passengers in a majority albanian suburb.

Two people were slightly injured in a third incident.

Interior minister gordana jankulovska condemned the violence.

Relations between the macedonian majority and the ethnic albanian minority remain scarred by an armed conflict in 2001 between macedonian security forces and ethnic albanian rebels.

Ethnic albanians make up some 25 percent of macedonia's population of 2 million.

The u.s. Embassy in skopje condemned the violence.

[url]http://www.rferl.org/content/macedonia_violent_attacks/24509701.html[/url]

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Risto the Great 03-08-2012 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;122390]The u.s. Embassy in skopje condemned the violence.[/QUOTE]
They pretty much created it so I guess they have come full circle now.

EgejskaMakedonia 03-08-2012 07:22 PM

Why is the US embassy even releasing a statement? Who gives a toss what their opinion is, it's none of their business.

Exactly right Risto, they were the pioneers behind the creation of this monster.

Valmir, why is it that you comment on the 'Kony 2012' thread and express your sorrow and regret at such atrocities, but then you jump in defence of proven Albanian criminals who have terrorised Macedonian villages and people?

Please be more consistent.

Brian 03-08-2012 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;122390][b][color="red"][SIZE="5"]Albanians injure 10 Macedonians in overnight attacks !!![/SIZE][/color][/b][/QUOTE]

That's why the police need to be quick at any flash point in greater numbers. For goodness sake one of their own (ie meaning a policeman not Macedonian) was attacked. The other 2 who were not shot should have had their asses dragged in and beaten the crap out of.

The police should have been filming the protesters to have evidence of any crimes by anyone. As soon as the shop windows were broken police should have charged in to drag them away. You might say this would have escalated the situation but that is exactly what is needed.

So long as the Macedonian police keep saying 'it was ONLY a shop window' or 'ONLY and assault' or 'ONLY' anything the Albanians will keep pushing things like this creating an environment of fear where the individual Macedonian is faced with having his property constantly damaged or beaten to a pulp or scared to send his kids to school or get out of town/village and abandon ground or vigilante groups form to fight back but the last option can have devastating consequences. It is the police's job to keep order not the individual citizen.

If it means setting up cameras everywhere then so be it. If it means using biometrics to denounce their 25% the so be it. Either RoM takes this matter seriously or they will loose everything piece by piece.

Phoenix 03-09-2012 06:01 AM

[QUOTE=Brian;122395]
If it means setting up cameras everywhere then so be it. If it means using biometrics to denounce their 25% the so be it. Either RoM takes this matter seriously or they will loose everything piece by piece.[/QUOTE]

Hang on a minute there champ...haven't you posted a shitload of articles in 'Brians Silly Corner' about the whole 'big brother' angle with the use of things like drones in the USA...you're bitching about the civil liberties of fuckin' American's but you want to set up CCTV on every corner in Macedonia...

WTF...?


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