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Bugi 03-13-2012 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;122730]
I meant ethnic Albanians of Macedonia who are in Kosovo.
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There arent any macedonian albanians in Kosovo,but I do see in recent time a trend of more and more young kosovar albanians who come to study in albanian universities in Macedonia and stay there...


[QUOTE=Risto the Great;122730]Because they are a minority. In particular because they have no desire to preserve the Macedonian nation. Also because the Vlachs and Turks and Serbs and whoever else are other minorities that will logically seek the same treatment.[/QUOTE]

All the other minorities make up 10% of the population,while the albanians are 30%!
well albanians should care about preserving the albanian nation,just as the macedonians should care about the macedonian...

Nevzat Halili had a idea few years ago that you didint even took under consideration:
Macedonia would be made out of two federal units with two parlaments-Macedonian parlament and Ilirida parlament and a main parlament dome where 50% of the deputies would be macedonians,40% albanians and 10% representatives of the other minorities.

Here is the main conclusion

[QUOTE]Заклучоци од првото собрание на Р. Илирида:

1.Сегашната Македонија да се прогласи за Федерална Република Македонија
Внатрешното уредување да се прогласи за унија на два рамноправни народи односно Унија на Република Илирида и Македонија
2. Државната заедница да добие дводомен парламент со пропорционална застапеност на двата народа
3. На територијарта на целата држава да има два официјални службени јазици: албанскиот, македонскиот и англискиот како комуникативен
4. Насекаде во централните и локалните органи на Унијата на Илирида и Македонија да се веат албанското и македонското знаме
5. Федералната Република Македонија да има посебно знаме за кое знаме ќе се договарат двете Републики
6. Претседателот на Федерална Република Македонија да се избира на секои четри (4) години, при што би се менувало по принцип на ротација, две години таа функција да ја извршува Албанец, а преостанатите две години Македонец, под услов претседателот да ги познава двата службени јазици и задолжително англискиот како комуникативен
7. Двата државни етнитети да имаат своја армија, полиција и судство
8. Меѓусебните граници да се определат во текот на создавањето на Унијата.[/QUOTE]

Bugi 03-13-2012 06:09 PM

[QUOTE=The LION will ROAR;122781]Albanians in Albania burning the national flag of Macedonia

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And we return to the action and reaction part

before the macedonian flag being burned

[IMG]http://www.rts.rs/upload/storyBoxImageData/2012/03/13/9421392/albanska.jpg[/IMG]

Risto the Great 03-13-2012 06:13 PM

[url]http://www.rts.rs/upload/storyBoxImageData/2012/03/13/9421392/albanska.jpg[/url]

Thanks for the Serbian linked picture.
Are Albanians still fighting Serbs in Macedonia?

Niko777 03-13-2012 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=The LION will ROAR;122781]Albanians in Albania burning the national flag of Macedonia

[url]http://www.netpress.com.mk/mk/vest.asp?id=100305&kategorija=1[/url]

[IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItiCeifdTQ8&feature=player_embedded[/IMG]

Young crowd chanted "We want ethnic Albania" and "Down Macedonia" after which they burned the Macedonian flag....[/QUOTE]

[B]This is the thanks Macedonia gets for hanging hundreds of Albanian flags on government buildings all over the country.[/B]

Risto the Great 03-13-2012 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=Bugi;122786]There arent any macedonian albanians in Kosovo,but I do see in recent time a trend of more and more young kosovar albanians who come to study in albanian universities in Macedonia and stay there...[/QUOTE]I wonder why they stay.




[QUOTE=Bugi;122786]All the other minorities make up 10% of the population,while the albanians are 30%!
well albanians should care about preserving the albanian nation,just as the macedonians should care about the macedonian...

Nevzat Halili had a idea few years ago that you didint even took under consideration:
Macedonia would be made out of two federal units with two parlaments-Macedonian parlament and Ilirida parlament and a main parlament dome where 50% of the deputies would be macedonians,40% albanians and 10% representatives of the other minorities.[/QUOTE]
I do not believe your 30%. But even if it was true, why 40% representatives in the above?

It was a stupid idea that wasn't even worth entertaining because the agenda was a federalisation of Macedonia based on ethnicity.

If you are saying Albanians should care about preserving the Albanian nation, you are a fool. We are talking about Macedonian citizens here. If there interests are so firmly entrenched in another nation, they really should migrate there.

I note you didn't pursue your silly idea of veto powers for minorities. If your opinion has changed, will you vote for changes to the Macedonian constitution in order to restore normality?

Bugi 03-13-2012 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=Niko777;122792][B]This is the thanks Macedonia gets for hanging hundreds of Albanian flags on government buildings all over the country.[/B][/QUOTE]

Like you were gona hang them if the albanians didint start uprising...

Zarni 03-13-2012 06:21 PM

Piss this bastard off admin he has been given an opportunity and speaks well for what Albanians desire, Greater Albania and the Destruction of the Macedonian State through the proxy of Human Rights and endless concessions amount to special status unseen in any Country on Earth for a restless minority

Bugi 03-13-2012 06:23 PM

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;122791][url]http://www.rts.rs/upload/storyBoxImageData/2012/03/13/9421392/albanska.jpg[/url]

Thanks for the Serbian linked picture.
Are Albanians still fighting Serbs in Macedonia?[/QUOTE]

As I said,action and reaction

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiiiU8Sx1k&feature=related]Shkup, digjet flamuri shqiptar.flv - YouTube[/url]

Zarni 03-13-2012 06:25 PM

[QUOTE]And we return to the action and reaction part

before the macedonian flag being burned[/QUOTE]

I saw that posted on a Albanian Forum it occured in Northern Kosovo

Risto the Great 03-13-2012 06:28 PM

If Bugi is representative of ethnic Albanians in Macedonia, then his opinion and thoughts are useful here on some levels. I still get the impression most ethnic Albanians of Macedonia are under the belief that they will be the majority in Macedonia one day, therefore they deserve privileged status in Macedonia immediately. This is obviously a flawed perspective and in many ways dangerous for the Macedonian nation.

Macedonians could make this problem go away in one week if they choose to. Unfortunately they are too self-absorbed to worry about it.


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