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Carlin 05-04-2012 11:58 PM

"Prior to 1865, Vlachs everywhere in the Peloponnese"
 
- "Prior to 1865, Vlachs everywhere in the Peloponnese.."
- "Number of non-Vlachs remained lower than the Vlachs.."
- "..the Peloponnese consisted mostly, if not entirely, of Vlachs and Albanians.."
- "..the guerrillas were generally Vlachs and Albanians, and in the Greek revolution Vlachs and Albanians, etc etc..."
- "Arcadia ... numerous Vlach villages."
- "Achaia ... Vlach villages."

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzUngXhfIY]ΒΛΑΧΟΙ vs γραικών 02.divx - YouTube[/url]

Carlin 05-21-2012 09:28 PM

The London Quarterly Review, published in April 1895 and July 1895:
"The Wallachians ... are numerous in the Peloponnesus."

George S. 05-25-2012 05:13 PM

Amazing i knew that they were there but for all that time.It seems to be for a long time.

Carlin 06-09-2012 06:33 PM

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As late as 1914 Vlachs lived in a mountain range in the Athens area (Hymettus). :)

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymettus[/url]

Source: "Days in Attica", Ellen Sophia Bosanquet (published in 1914).
Please see enclosed screenshots.

Source: "Vlasi, polinomichan narod", Zef Mirdita [Hrvatski institut za povijest]


As per the author, the following territories were regarded as ethnically Vlach regions in the late Middle Ages - and known under the following names:

Page 257:
Thessaly: Great Wallachia
Aetolia, Acarnania, along the coast to the Corinthian gulf: Small Wallachia
Pindus mountains (Epirus): Upper Wallachia
Achaia: Lower Wallachia

Page 257 quote:
"Oni (Vlasi) su zapravo posvuda posvjedoceni kako na [B]Halkidiku[/B], na planinama [B]Rodopa[/B], [B]na azijskom delu Bospora[/B], u Atici, Eubeji, [B]na Peloponezu[/B], tako [B]i na Krfu i drugim Jonskim ostrvima[/B]."

If there is still any doubt - a quote from Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer: “Φυλετικό κράμα Σλάβων και Αρβανιτόβλαχων οι σημερινοί Έλληνες”. :)

Carlin 10-06-2012 10:51 AM

"Zabelezhano e isto taka, deka vo 1854 godina vo Mesinija izbila [I][B]Vlashka Revolucija[/B][/I]. Desetici toponimi na Peloponez se odnesuvaat na Vlasite: Vlasi, Vlahorafti i Vlahofteri vo Gortinija, Vlahopul vo Pilia, Vlahohori vo Lakonija, Vlaheika vo Trizinia, Vlahokerasia vo Mandinia, Vlaheika vo Patra i Vlahiotis vo Epidavr."

- Nikolaos I. Merdzos, "Aromani - Vlasi", Solun, 2012, str. 31.
- Jorgis Eksarhos, "Toa se Vlasite", Atina, 1994, str. 72.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenia[/url]

Carlin 12-08-2012 12:55 AM

Vo 1832. godina, koga nivnoto prisustvo na Peloponez se uste bilo zivo i ne mozelo da se ospori, Konstandinos Kumas napisal: "Rasprostraneti vo razlicni sela, poveketo planinski, od Makedonija do Peloponez, se takanarecenite Vlasi, koi bile Makedonci, Tesalijci i Grci po rod."

Notable Modern Greeks of Vlach ancestry:

- Rigas Fereos
- Georgakis Olimpios (sorabotnik i soborec na princot A. Ipsilantis)
- Joanis Koletis (prv ustaven premier na Grcija)
- Apostolos Arsakis
- Konstandinos Zapas
- Georgios Averof
- Joakim III Velicestveniot
- Aristotelis Valaoritis (vazna uloga odigral vo prisoedinuvanjeto na Jonskite ostrovi kon Grcija)



[url]http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1ydec/20120907203212/resources/4.htm[/url]

[url]http://utrinski.com.mk/?ItemID=C1D223771F44C740AABE5750398EEAC5[/url]

momce 12-08-2012 02:33 AM

amazing...and the rural language of greece are mostly creole arvanitovlach

Carlin 01-01-2013 04:37 PM

The "Byzantines" were Latin-speakers as late as the 7th century (..and most likely for the next few centuries). "Mysteriously", some [I]Vlachs[/I] appear out of nowhere in 976 AD, for the very first time.

The History of Theophylact Simocatta

Theophylact Simocatta was an early seventh-century Byzantine historiographer, arguably ranking as the last historian of Late Antiquity, writing in the time of Heraclius (c 630) about the late Emperor Maurice (582-602). It is likely that he was writing around 630.

[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/57083905/The-History-of-Theophylact-Simocatta[/url]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylact_Simocatta[/url]

- And so Heraclius' companions, seeing the hero bathed in his noble blood and marvelling at his courage, set him on horseback and carried him to the camp. Next, they drew out and extracted the other missiles implanted in his body, but the one in his side they were unable to withdraw; for those who are instructed in these things, the skills of Chiron and Machaon, whispered among themselves that with the departure of the weapon his soul would also pass away. But that Macedonian, or Leonidas in spirit, a Callimachus or Cynegeirus, but it will suffice to call it Roman-when he heard the doctors' words, asked if the [B]Romans[/B] had been victorious. When the bystanders assented and said that the [B]Latins[/B] had raised the trophy, he tested their words on oath. When he had learned that the Romans had in reality gained the lighter pan in the balance of war, whereas the Persians had the opposite turn of the scale and were being dragged down to calamity by the weight of defeat, he leapt up with a gasp, saying that the statement was a great consolation and relief for this pain, and that he now awaited death.

[Romans = Latins]

- The Romans drew near to the Getae (for this is the older name for the barbarians), but did not dare to come to grips, since they were afraid of the javelins which the barbarians were sending from the barricade against their horses. [B]Then their captain, whose name was Alexander, commanded the Romans in the ancestral Roman language[/B]* to dismount from their horses and grasp the enemy danger at close quarter.

[* - Latin was still the language of army commands.]

George S. 01-02-2013 01:08 AM

these people the vlachs behaved themselves unlike the albanians who wanted the whole of macedonia for themselves.I don't think there was any resentment of the vlachs & macedonians ,has there ever been any?

momce 01-02-2013 02:14 AM

Theres been some history of vlach-Macedonian cooperation actually. Most of the conflict between them comes in greece where vlachs were resettled satrategically on Macedonian lands by the greek govt. Its odd because historically the pure Vlachs and grecophones have had bad relations. I believe during WWII the vlach and Macedonian states were suppose to be united under one King.


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