[QUOTE=zenan;127300]The flag is not our biggest concern right now, just look on whats going on in Skopje , Kumanovo , Tetovo , Gostivar..[/QUOTE]

You're right, perhaps it isn't our main priority given the current circumstances, however it should be emphasised that a fight against any detriment to the sovereignty of Macedonia should ultimately be fought concurrently. There is no reason why the Framework Agreement, Interim Accord, Albanianisation of Macedonia, etc, shouldn't be grouped into one category and confronted in a single, united effort.

The flag is a concern for a number of reasons. The initial and on-going acceptance of the new flag has caused the people to act in a passive and indecisive manner. This has inevitably led to other problems, and has significantly contributed to the lack of action against the Albanian movement. It may seem to be an isolated issue, but the moment the Macedonian people accepted the Interim Accord, the more accepting they became of subsequent 'agreements' and threats to their sovereignty.

[quote=zenan;127300]The flag is not our biggest concern right now, just look on whats going on in Skopje , Kumanovo , Tetovo , Gostivar..[/quote] zenan, welcome to the forum. It takes a certain mindset (based on certain fundamental principles) to take care of racist extremists. A person who has accepted the ventilator does not possess that mindset. In fact, he's already defeated and most probably does not even realise it yet.

[QUOTE=Vangelovski;127302]zenan, welcome to the forum. It takes a certain mindset (based on certain fundamental principles) to take care of racist extremists. A person who has accepted the ventilator does not possess that mindset. In fact, he's already defeated and most probably does not even realise it yet.[/QUOTE]


Ive never said i accepted it ( yes i have it as a avatar, like it or not its our current national flag ) , i just think we got a lot more problems atm then our flag, lets take care of the albanians first, who are slowly taking over Macedonia ( and will do so if these things continue.. )

Zenan are you 'the poet' you seem to have his mentality.

Why do you support this flag apart from your current excuse. Is it better than the sonce and do you know how we cam to this flag?

[QUOTE=zenan;127383]Ive never said i accepted it ( yes i have it as a avatar, like it or not its our current national flag ) , i just think we got a lot more problems atm then our flag, lets take care of the albanians first, who are slowly taking over Macedonia ( and will do so if these things continue.. )[/QUOTE]
Albanians are taking over because Macedonians have given up in every instance. The ventilator is a terrific example of how weak Macedonians are. Like it or not, it is a symbol of national weakness.

I think things might change if Macedonians START with the flag.

[quote=zenan;127383]Ive never said i accepted it ( yes i have it as a avatar, like it or not its our current national flag )[/quote] You don't sound like someone who understands what the ventilator is and why you are already defeated.

Zenan The ventilator flag is a flag of compromise & capitulation.If our heroes & forefathers knew what we have done they would turn in their graves.The sad fact people in rom follow like sheep the decision not to use the macedonian sonce they capitulated & allowed greece to monopolise the macedonian symbols.Zenan freedom loving & right minded people
shouldn't do that but they do.Not only the flag but it manifests in the name negotitions,by continuing on it has given our ebemies more where they can get us in a corner to comprimise ourselves.You also got dud agreements signed by macedonia both the intrim accord & the ohrid agreement.Pure & simple the macedonian people have let themselves down & the polticians have let us down.It's like a disease which stops us from making the right decision we are losing our sovereignity to minorities who don't even appreciate & respect us.The only way macedonia can free itself if the people start a revolution.Look at the mindset people have they have accepted their fate they haven't even bothered to challenge what is going on in rom.

Sllupcani, if I am right a selo near kumanovo?!

Till now I don´t now that there is such a monument for our soldiers.
I know we have the new one in Prilep, but for me this isn´t really
a monument to honor the fallen.

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in Prilep

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What the heck is the rom govt doing letting that shit monument for the shiptar terrorists.
They aren't real heroes.What did they protect they started the war.Macedonia didn't start a war with the shiptars they did there is a big difference in the next attack the macedonian sneed to kick some shiptar arse for the way they are acting.Trying to take our macedonia away.We shouldn't let them do it.

[QUOTE=zenan;127383]Ive never said i accepted it ( yes i have it as a avatar, like it or not its our current national flag )........[/QUOTE]
I assume you don't accept FYROM either. But its like saying "like it or not FYROM is what they call us in the international arena". Take a principled stance and show some integrity. Get rid of that piece of shit from your avatar.