[QUOTE=MKPrilep;128702]zdravo drugari, jas sum momentalno vo prilep, i vcera svrtiv eden krug
okolu selata debreste (torbesi so se pravat siptari), lazani (bosanci),
pestalivo (mesano) i crniliste (siptari).
[B]vo sekoj selo ima nova, giganticna dzamija.[/B]
ke gi stavam slikive denojve.
golem pozdrav od prilep!!![/QUOTE]

naj mnogu shto go odgrde prirodnata ubavinata na zapadna Makedonia bea ovie dzamij, sekade

....muslim states reason for the ugly tall minarets destroying the scenery, so that a mosque will always rise up and be higher than a christian church.....

Try and enjoy your time there, I came back hardened

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;128702]zdravo drugari, jas sum momentalno vo prilep, i vcera svrtiv eden krug
okolu selata debreste (torbesi so se pravat siptari), lazani (bosanci),
pestalivo (mesano) i crniliste (siptari).
vo sekoj selo ima nova, giganticna dzamija.
ke gi stavam slikive denojve.
golem pozdrav od prilep!!![/QUOTE]



Lele, duri i tamu ima dzamii, ova ne e vise normalno. Za zal taka i vo Caska, bas vo srceto na Makedonija samo rastat Dzamii kako pecurki od zemja. Abe pogolemi gi praat od crkvi, toa samo kaj nas go ima.

Bas sakam da vidam sliki, pozdrav.

[QUOTE][B]Летоци со навредлива содржина излепени на автомобили во Тафталиџе[/B]

[I]05.06.2012 - 12:58 |

Македонија[/I]


“[I]Смрт за децата каури[/I]”, “[I]Напред за Исламот[/I]” вакви пораки биле излепени на автомобилите паркирани во близина на училиштето Јан Амос Коменски.



Со дрвофикс, непознати лица, пораките испишани со црвено мастило на бел лист хартија ги лепеле на прозорците и шофершајбните.
Веројатно рано изутрината групата оперирала на паркинзите пред двете згради до училиштето, зошто никој не ги забележал.
Пријавата во полиција стигнала во 8.30 утрото од изненадените жители на населбата Тафталиџе.
Зачудени се зошто овде некој цели со вакви пораки кога никој немал проблеми со никого.
Крим техничарите на МВР извршија увид, а листовите хартија ги однесоа на вештачење.
Ако биле невнимателни трагите ќе ги откријат сторителите, ако биле стручни полицјата ќе бара помош од видео надзорот на околните објекти.
Иван Кузмановски[/QUOTE]

In Taftalidze, Skopje.

[QUOTE=Čento;128710]Lele, duri i tamu ima dzamii, ova ne e vise normalno. Za zal taka i vo Caska, bas vo srceto na Makedonija samo rastat Dzamii kako pecurki od zemja. Abe pogolemi gi praat od crkvi, toa samo kaj nas go ima.

Bas sakam da vidam sliki, pozdrav.[/QUOTE]

koj mu ebe mater toj narod po dobro ne za sluzil

eve gi slikite od moja ekskursija

prvo selo debreste, ovde ziveat torbeshi, ama se pravat siptari.
dzamiata mu e so tursko zname

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posle selo lazani, ovde ziveat bosanci. seloto e uste pogolemo.
torbesite i bosancite ne se sakaat.

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i na kraj selo pestalivo, ovde ziveat muslimani i makedonci.
makedoncite bea protiv nova dzamia, ama kako gledate i ovde
pobedia muslimanite.

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od siptarskoto selo crniliste momentalno nemam sliki, ama ke stavam isto. bevme cetvorica, eden policaec i eden so bese kaj wolcite 2001.
ama nikoj ne sakase vo selata da izlezi od kolata. ova e "nivno" mesto, ne e povekje makedonsko. I kako so rece eden od niv " gotovo, ne potiskaa muslimanite".

Ova se slucuva zatoa sto ja uzivaat celosnata poddrska od zapadnite zemji + USA,taka da,nase e da ocekuvame i da se nadevame oni da im svrtat grb,a toa nekogas mora da se sluci,pa posle toa da vidime "cija majka crna volna ke prede" ! Nemoj da zaboravis deka od Aracinovo vo 2001-va bea izvadeni so amerikanski avtobusi,pridruzuvani od amerikanska vojska kako zastita !!!

[QUOTE=Risto the Great;127389]Albanians are taking over because Macedonians have given up in every instance. The ventilator is a terrific example of how weak Macedonians are. Like it or not, it is a symbol of national weakness.

I think things might change if Macedonians START with the flag.[/QUOTE]
The ventilator as a symbol never appears in Macedonian history OR as a symbol of Macedonia.NEVER!So why would something like this become our national flag?To start with,the Kutlesh sun was an excellent choice for our flag.It is one of the oldest symbols of Macedonia and it's found in various sites throughout it's territory.But since the Greeks have it "branded" as a Greek symbol,any external use (as it was shown) is regarded as a real-life version of "copyright infringement".So the best solution (historically speaking) would be the next best thing,another symbol of our country.I think that the next best solution (in my opinion at least) would be the yellow lion on a red shield,a symbol for Macedonia since the 15th century onward (even though in some drawings Alexander the Great is shown bearing it on his shield,which places it even as back as Ancient Macedonia).However,since the symbol has been abused by political parties with the "VMRO" in their name,it is unlikely that leftist and center-orientated parties will ever accept this symbol (moreover,the lion was proposed to be Macedonia's official coat-of-arms replacing the old commie one,but SDSM and other parties voted against it,so the only change to the coat-of-arms was taking off the red star from it's top).Other countries have included symbols from their history (Russians and Serbs have the white eagle,Croats their chessboard etc.) so I don't see why would a ventilator displayed as a sun as a cover-up would represent ANY country,let alone Macedonia.It's a damn shame that Macedonians left out the lion because of political reasons.

[QUOTE=MKPrilep;128762]eve gi slikite od moja ekskursija

prvo selo debreste, ovde ziveat torbeshi, ama se pravat siptari.
dzamiata mu e so tursko zname

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Macedonians should take a good look at these mosques, because if they don't change their attitude soon, their churches will also turn into mosques in the near future!

[QUOTE]But since the Greeks have it "branded" as a Greek symbol,any external use (as it was shown) is regarded as a real-life version of "copyright infringement".[/QUOTE]

I'm sure if Macedonia tried (they have never attempted so far) they could fight this on many grounds: 1. How can a modern country hold a copyright on a symbol thousands of years old or 2. that this is a Macedonian symbol and therefore every part of divided Macedonia has a right to use this symbol, or 3. it can argue that the symbol has also been found on its territory at many archaeological locations so what makes Greece so special to exclusively own this symbol?

These new mosques kind of remind me of Aegean Macedonia where for the last 20 years there has been a significant trend for villages and cities to raise money and build new churches, except in Greece it was the Greek church driving this trend for the purpose of making people proud of their Christian and "Greek" identity. This is what the Albanians are doing, they are showing us that they are proud Albanian Muslims and are challenging the legitimacy of a Macedonian state in general.

[quote=Goran-Skopje;128763]Ova se slucuva zatoa sto ja uzivaat celosnata poddrska od zapadnite zemji + USA,taka da,nase e da ocekuvame i da se nadevame oni da im svrtat grb,a toa nekogas mora da se sluci,pa posle toa da vidime "cija majka crna volna ke prede" ! Nemoj da zaboravis deka od Aracinovo vo 2001-va bea izvadeni so amerikanski avtobusi,pridruzuvani od amerikanska vojska kako zastita !!![/quote]Prvo i osnovno, ova se slucuva bidekji ja uzivaat celosnata poddrska od Makedonskata Vlada, a vladata od mnozinstvoto od narodot! Nitu Amerika, nitu Evropa moze da ima tolkavo vlijanie ako Makedonskiot narod ne mu dozvoluva. No ova e tugja i nerazbirliva misla za mnogu Makedonci.